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Defence are making me shake my head here....they can't get the puck on net...always shooting it too lightly up the boards, always shooting it right at the defence, where is the Markov we all know at?  The boys just need to start shooting back there, on net.  Huet....bad goal, very lazy...i hope he turns his game around.

-- Edited by Caper_hab_fan at 19:47, 2006-10-23

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To Crystal Ball's credit he buckled down in the first period after that weak goal. Sometimes a wake up call early is a good thing.

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Nice job by the wonderman Markov, this guy is not doing it for me at all....if i had to pick 1 player for trade bait, it would be him, while his market is somewhat up there.....2nd best powerplay and that happens.....boys aren't creating chances at all.


Bad habs night



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To Crystal Ball's credit he buckled down in the first period after that weak goal. Sometimes a wake up call early is a good thing.



how did the first 1 go in , i saw the replay and id looked like he made the save but the puck went up in the air and into the net , or did it got off the glass then in .

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C'mon Habs, we all know you are great on the PK... now stop taking penalties so you can prove it some more!

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If that Sourray thing was a penalty, then I am Colonel Sanders    Talk about weak refs   they must be from Buffalo. Begin was tripped from behind.    Come on Kovy and Sammy show us your stuff  Light up this crowd 

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2nd Intermission


Buffalo -- 3


Montreal -- 0


 


Shots on Goal


Buffalo -- 19


Montreal -- 14



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how did the first 1 go in , i saw the replay and id looked like he made the save but the puck went up in the air and into the net , or did it got off the glass then in .



It looked to me like it tipped off his glove & went spinnin' up in the air, landed behind him slowly & bounced in.

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Nice job by the wonderman Markov, this guy is not doing it for me at all....if i had to pick 1 player for trade bait, it would be him, while his market is somewhat up there.....2nd best powerplay and that happens.....boys aren't creating chances at all.


Bad habs night




I blame Ryder for dogging it out of the offensive zone.  Weak, uninspired play by most of the lineup.

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If that Sourray thing was a penalty, then I am Colonel Sanders    Talk about weak refs   they must be from Buffalo. Begin was tripped from behind.    Come on Kovy and Sammy show us your stuff  Light up this crowd 

-- Edited by davidb at 20:41, 2006-10-23




it seems if you try and lift a players stick and he turns and your stick then touches his body they call it hooking .and thx mc girl

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Off the glove into the air and bounced into the net. Plain as that.


Shorthanded goal went in because Huet played the man with the puck for too long and lost his angle leaving the far side of the net wide open watch the reply and look and see just how far out he is to the side.


3rd goal went in because huet didnt see a thing, i think it was Komi ( THINK ) who stood right infront of him and a few weird deflections later it was in.


What is REALLY bothering me are how the habs shots are ALL being blocked. Nothing is getting through and passes are being made too long. Keep your game short against the sabres!!! they are too fast and break out VERY fast. Habs have to get closer and take faster shots and get rebounds if they are going to score and come even close to tying the game.


Hope we see much more shots for the habs and these damn refs stop calling some of the worst calls ive seen this year! That hooking call on Lats and also Souray at the end of the second were TERRIBLE calls!



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I cannot believe that call   Boy these posts sound so much like the ones last year    Shots not getting through etc

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uhmmm. It's not the refs. It's not uninspired play. Buffalo is just the  better team so far. I suspect they will continue to show who is boss the remainder of the night.


I think this has been a good yard stick. At the end of the night, have a look at the tape and see how you stack up against the best.


I assume that donout problem will need to be addressed. and i think Boullion will provide some much needed mobility back there. Komi looks slow and ploundering against these guys.



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Sounds about right Muller, but you can also add that Miller is out-dueling Huet. The penalties also hurt though and we will burn our team out if we don't get more disciplined and fast.

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3-1  at least we wont get shut out  and you never know  might give us some life

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Final Score


Barfalo -- 4


Montreal -- 1



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Here is what I would do:


Move Koivu down to the Russian prancers to give them some grit.


Place Bonk between Higgins and Ryder( Higgins is looking good enough to go it alone without Koivu).


Plek goes between Johnson and Perez( a speed line ).


Sit Murray( he is useless) and create a grind line of latendrese-begin-laperierre.


 


A little shake up to get two lines scoring?????



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Game Pics - Cyberpresse



Koivu avoiding a Tallinder check



Komi checking Briere



Miller making save



Campbell checking Higgins



1st Goal Novotny



Johnson deflection , Miller save



Peters/Huet



Latendresse checking Spacek


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Here is what I would do:


Move Koivu down to the Russian prancers to give them some grit.


Place Bonk between Higgins and Ryder( Higgins is looking good enough to go it alone without Koivu).


Plek goes between Johnson and Perez( a speed line ).


Sit Murray( he is useless) and create a grind line of latendrese-begin-laperierre.


 


A little shake up to get two lines scoring?????





Ok, I will keep saying this, until I turn blue, whether or not I am right, since I think I am, and doggone it, that's good enough for me.


Putting 3 guys who like to carry the puck on the same line is a BAD idea. Having two wingers who like to carry the puck all the time is also a bad idea. (Any example I can think of, and feel free to jog my memory, where two puck carriers have been on the same line and flourished are all when one is a centre, for example, Lemieux and Jagr). Our puck carriers should be split up. They are, as I see it, Koivu, Kovalev, Samsonov, and Perezhogin. Those guys carry the puck better than anyone else on the team, and one per line makes sense to me. Each scoring line needs at least one winger who is either a finisher or a guy who likes to go hard to the net and pick up the dirty goals. Those guys as I see it on our team are Ryder, Higgins, Johnson, and Latendresse. Kostsitsyn might also fit that mold when he graduates.


Let's not split up the first line, since most games they are carrying us. Let's get a net crasher or a guy with a booming shot on the second line, let's leave the 3rd line largely untouched (unless we promote Johnson and have Lats take his place), and for the love of pete, let's find a way to get Begin on the wing again.


I see two shakeups that I like for different reasons. The first, and least drastic:


Higgins, Koivu, Ryder


Johnson, Plekanec, Kovalev


Perezhogin, Bonk, Latendresse


Samsonov, Murray, Begin


This allows Pleks to play more defensively and give Kovalev a target in front of the net, while also sending a message to Samsonov, keeping our first line intact, and rewarding/challenging Latendresse for recent hard work and letting him play with some more offensively gifted players, and putting Begin on the wing.


The second option I like is:


Higgins, Koivu, Ryder


Samsonov, Kovalev, Latendresse


Perezhogin, Bonk, Johnson


Begin, Plekanec, Murray


This keeps our two best lines intact (though you could easily switch Pleks and Bonk since I feel either would excel in either position, but I don't think we should demote Bonk after playing so well), It puts Begin in his natural position with a very good centreman for the fourth line, and it lets the Russians play with a pure net-crashing finisher. The biggest problem with this arrangement is that the second line does not get better defensively and Kovalev would have to adapt to being a centre, but as has been pointed out before, he can win faceoffs and his skill set suits the position.



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I like your second option better Traveling Hab, but I'm not sure we'll see Kovalev as a centre anytime soon.

I really don't think the first and third lines should be tinkered with, but the 2nd and 4th are not working, as everyone has pointed out.

How to get Begin onto the wing? Murray or even Maxim Lapierre could be tried as a fourth line centre, moving Latendresse up to the 2nd line (he's working hard so now might be the time to give it a shot) and putting Begin and Samsonov on the wings for the 4th line.

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