Well let's trade him for Marian Hossa or Yashin. They both have great regular season numbers but when it counts in the playoffs they dont show up. I guess that is what everyone here wants. What if Datsyuk or Zetterberg was on this team?? This board would of traded them already. Time will prove you guys wrong. The problem with Kovalev is his center. Pleckanc can not play on top two lines, and who ever argues saying he can, let's look back to last years playoffs. If Pleckanc could deal with line 1 or 2 he would of shown up when Saku went down.
Andy wrote: I still do not see the playoff stats. Ryders playoff stats because come playoff time you will be ripping him for not showing like the past two years.
What good are playoff stats if your team does not make the playoffs because you floated through the season? Did it ever occur to anyone that the reason he is so good in the playoffs is because he is probably more rested than the rest of the players due to his lack of effort.
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Ok true, but as I look at the standings currently Montreal is in a playoff spot. It is 9 games into the season, but they are still there. Kovalev has been on this team for two playoff runs in two years, so he has yet to miss the playoffs with the habs. So in the end Barry your point is irrevelant.
Chris Drury has did it his whole carrer with Av's. Not this year with Sabres but look at Drury's playoff stats with Av's and his game 7 clinching game winning goals, compared to his regular season stats.
Andy wrote: I still do not see the playoff stats. Ryders playoff stats because come playoff time you will be ripping him for not showing like the past two years.
What good are playoff stats if your team does not make the playoffs because you floated through the season? Did it ever occur to anyone that the reason he is so good in the playoffs is because he is probably more rested than the rest of the players due to his lack of effort.
Hhaha...brilliant Barry.
By the way, Pleks wasn't bad at all in the playoffs. Not a first line centre for sure, but one of our best players if I recall.
Amen! We all know that Kovy can get the job done, but he hasn't been doing said job. I like the guy, I really do, and I think we all know the talent he posesses - one of the best pair of hands in the NHL. I had this very same conversation in Montreal with Kovy's biggest fan, Ripple.
I rest my case. Kovy line looked great once he was put to center samsonov and perezoghin, and lost Pleckanec. Now all the critics can rip me apart beause there is always something wrong. Let me guess Sammy should still be on the 4th line.
Andy wrote: I rest my case. Kovy line looked great once he was put to center samsonov and perezoghin, and lost Pleckanec. Now all the critics can rip me apart beause there is always something wrong. Let me guess Sammy should still be on the 4th line.
Andy you're taking it all a little personal. Nobody is arguing that there's hope things will turn around. But the bottom line was that the 2nd line was not working. And a lot of it had to do with the lazy play of Kovalev.
And if you don't think there is something wrong, you haven't been watching the last few games. The Habs are not clicking like they were the first half dozen games. Personally I think the biggest problem is with our defensemen...but hey, that's just my opinion.
Your right I had my eyes closed when the game was on. Let's not take anything away from Boston, as they did beat Ottawa also. There is always room for improvement but it seems like you guys expect a 82-0 season. And so help me god if one of our stars are not on the scoreboard one night as they should be traded. The more and more I read here the more and more it sounds like After the horn a leafs post game show. Why do I listen to that show, I don't but I do catch it sometimes when I am in the car at night, and the fact is Leaf fans sound like most people on this board. Pretty sad but it is true.
All the bashing but the kovalev, perezoghin, and samsonov were involved in all the scoring. And no one is man enough to fess up.
Time to trade Saku,ryder or higgins, as they did not produce last night.
Your right I had my eyes closed when the game was on. Let's not take anything away from Boston, as they did beat Ottawa also. There is always room for improvement but it seems like you guys expect a 82-0 season. And so help me god if one of our stars are not on the scoreboard one night as they should be traded. The more and more I read here the more and more it sounds like After the horn a leafs post game show. Why do I listen to that show, I don't but I do catch it sometimes when I am in the car at night, and the fact is Leaf fans sound like most people on this board. Pretty sad but it is true.
All the bashing but the kovalev, perezoghin, and samsonov were involved in all the scoring. And no one is man enough to fess up.
Time to trade Saku,ryder or higgins, as they did not produce last night.
-- Edited by Andy at 15:57, 2006-10-29
I did agree about some things that you said, but why are you calling everyone out??
I just think that the topic has been beaten to death on here and that things got personal witha few people and that is ridicuclous. We all have our opinions on Kovalev. Most of us are frustrated with the guy's selective use of his god given talents and wish that he expected more of himself on a nightly basis. That's all. His penalty barrage against Boston was inexcusable and as I said in another post, had I been the coach, both he and Rivet would have been sitting in the press box eating hot dogs for the Leafs game. Sydney Crosby gets whacked, slashed, kneed and tripped in a nightly basis as do many other superstars in the league. It goes with the territory. If someone is trying to take out Kovy's knees then that is up to someone like Murray to look after the guy who did it. I am left to wonder why no one on the team did.
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barry33 wrote: I just think that the topic has been beaten to death on here and that things got personal witha few people and that is ridicuclous. We all have our opinions on Kovalev. Most of us are frustrated with the guy's selective use of his god given talents and wish that he expected more of himself on a nightly basis. That's all. His penalty barrage against Boston was inexcusable and as I said in another post, had I been the coach, both he and Rivet would have been sitting in the press box eating hot dogs for the Leafs game. Sydney Crosby gets whacked, slashed, kneed and tripped in a nightly basis as do many other superstars in the league. It goes with the territory. If someone is trying to take out Kovy's knees then that is up to someone like Murray to look after the guy who did it. I am left to wonder why no one on the team did.
Agreed. Plus late in the third period against T.O. the Samsonov-Kovalev-Perezhogin line was born. Scoring two late period goals and helping the team earn a point it shouldn't have. Kovalev scored 3 assists in the game.