Glenn Heatley

barry33 · Guru

Glenn Heatley

JohnM · Guru

He's an idiot. I saw him on Sports Center. I think Domi could do a better job then this pinhead.

wright · Veteran Member

barry33 wrote:

Anyone catch Glenn Heatley on TSN's (Toronto Sports Network) "Off the Record" last night? If you listened to him you would think that the Laffs made HUGE strides in the offseason. According to him:

Peca was a huge upgrade over Allison
Hal Gill has adapted to the new NHL and will stop doing his pylong impersonation
Kubina will be a top 3 dman
Paul Maurice will make a huge impact
Montreal did nothing to improve itself and will not make the playoffs. But Toronto will.

Healey will always have a biased perspective when it comes to the Leafs. He played for them and now is employed by TSN (the Toronto sports network) so he will never have anything negative to say about them. As far as his comments are concerned, the Leafs may gain some better defensive play with Peca, but they lose on the powerplay with Allison and Lindross no longer with them. It is to laugh to say that Hal Gill has adapted to the new NHL, based on what? He has always had poor foot speed, and that will not change. He will be a liability on the Leaf blueline. Kubina struggled last season, and although one would assume he will be better this season, that is not a given. Maurice will inject some energy into the Leafs for sure, but he does not have a lot to work with.

The Leafs scoring depth is lacking, particularly on the wings. At this point one can't say the Leafs have better than average goaltending. Samsanov,Johnson represent an upgrade over Zednik and Bulis, from that prespective alone the Habs are better than a year ago. With Ottawa,Buffalo,Boston and Montreal all having either stayed the same or made some upgrades, with the unbalanced schedule and the Leafs facing each of those teams 8 times how many more additional points are they going to pickup with their current roster? Hard to see how they make the playoffs unless they get a dramatic increased performance from the likes of O'Neil, far from a certainty.

Muller93 · Guru

I do not really see Samsonov and Johnson as big upgrades...over zednick and Bulis. Bulis scored 23 goals last year?

-- Edited by Muller93 at 11:15, 2006-09-22

wright · Veteran Member

Muller93 wrote:

I do not really see Samsonov and Johnson as big upgrades...over zednick and Bulis. Bulis scored 23 goals last year?

-- Edited by Muller93 at 11:15, 2006-09-22

Not to get too caught up in stats, but Zednik in 579 games has 161 goals and 299 points. Bulis in 473 games 87 goals and 222 points. Samsanov in 533 games 169 goals and 392 points. Johnson in 560 games 116 goals and 339 points. Neither Zednik nor Bulis were satisfied in their roles last season which certainly does not help club attitude,from all perspectives Samsanov and Johnson want to be with the Habs and that alone is a positive over Bulis and Zednik. Based on their olympics last season playing on the same line, Samsanov and Kovalev meshed well together which should help the Habs as well. Not saying that Sammy and Johnson represent huge upgrades over Bulis and Zednik, but do think they will have greater contributions than the other two.

barry33 · Guru

Muller93 wrote:

I do not really see Samsonov and Johnson as big upgrades...over zednick and Bulis. Bulis scored 23 goals last year?

-- Edited by Muller93 at 11:15, 2006-09-22

I think if we are to look at it UNBIASEDLY, that Toronto has addressed key deficiencies better than Montreal. Raycroft will be an upgrade over an aging Eagle, Peca will bring some more grit and defense, Kubina is a pretty decent upgrade on defence over Aki Berg and, perhaps most importantly, Paul Maurice is a huge upgrade over the old school Pat Quinn. Trawna's problem will be the same as the habs...putting the biscuit in the net.

macneil · Guru

glen healy is a moron . i do look at toronto unbiasedly

barry said

I think if we are to look at it UNBIASEDLY, that Toronto has addressed key deficiencies better than Montreal. Raycroft will be an upgrade over an aging Eagle, Peca will bring some more grit and defense, Kubina is a pretty decent upgrade on defence over Aki Berg and, perhaps most importantly, Paul Maurice is a huge upgrade over the old school Pat Quinn. Trawna's problem will be the same as the habs...putting the biscuit in the net.

based on what did they upgrade their goalie , based on the last 2 years belfore was as good as rycroft and more proven . peca will be a better defensively but they lost scoring with allison , their d upgrades were good but gill is slow and kubina isn't great defensivly and will have 2 rookies all year , maurice is a good coach ill say that . they will fight for the last spot in the post season , hopefully it wont be with montreal.

AB Habman · Guru

You have to give them credit. They missed the playoffs by four points and now made strides to improve themselves. I think they will put more stress on us as lower seeded teams struggling to get in at the end. As Barry mentioned, they now have a WAY BETTER COACH!

barry33 · Guru

macneil wrote:

glen healy is a moron . i do look at toronto unbiasedly

barry said

I think if we are to look at it UNBIASEDLY, that Toronto has addressed key deficiencies better than Montreal. Raycroft will be an upgrade over an aging Eagle, Peca will bring some more grit and defense, Kubina is a pretty decent upgrade on defence over Aki Berg and, perhaps most importantly, Paul Maurice is a huge upgrade over the old school Pat Quinn. Trawna's problem will be the same as the habs...putting the biscuit in the net.

based on what did they upgrade their goalie , based on the last 2 years belfore was as good as rycroft and more proven . peca will be a better defensively but they lost scoring with allison , their d upgrades were good but gill is slow and kubina isn't great defensivly and will have 2 rookies all year , maurice is a good coach ill say that . they will fight for the last spot in the post season , hopefully it wont be with montreal.

Red- Healy is a moron..that is a given. But I do feel and predict that it will be Montreal that Trawna fights the last spot for. They did lats year and they will again this year.

macneil · Guru

yes thats true barry , and AB maurice is a good coach but "way better" they have different styles , quinn has won alot of games and he was the coach of team canada , would i want him to coach the habs , no , but maurice is not scotty bowman either. he will hold the players accountable , something quinn didn't . weather they respond or tune him out remains to be seen .

AB Habman · Guru

macneil wrote:

yes thats true barry , and AB maurice is a good coach but "way better" they have different styles , quinn has won alot of games and he was the coach of team canada , would i want him to coach the habs , no , but maurice is not scotty bowman either. he will hold the players accountable , something quinn didn't . weather they respond or tune him out remains to be seen .

My point is...he's what the doctor ordered for the structurally challenged team. He wil provide a system where Quinn had no idea what one was.

macneil · Guru

true enuf there ab . and a point i failed to comment on before , you state they missed the playoffs by 4 point, but they went on a tear at the end of the season when they were all but eliminated and had no pressure , they were basicly eliminated when we beat them those 2 games . but none the less they did almost make it .

Mad Habber · Member

OK let's try and look at this objectively.

First Peca. Overall play, leadership, he is an upgrade over Allison. Offensively, the Leafs better look elsewhere, especially if they can't score 5 on 5 like last year.

Hal Gill is a pylon, he was always a pylon and will always remain a pylon. Having said that he can still be effective killing penalties, where teams slow the pace down in a more restrictive zone. His reach is a big help there. BTW the leafs think they got a tough guy here, Well I remember Souray slapping him silly one night.

Myth #3, Kubina will be a top 3 dman. Well Kubina is the #3 defenseman in Toronto, so this statement is kind of useless. This means McCabe and Kaberle will get a little less time on the PP to make room for this top 3 who got fewer points than Rivet last year as a top 2 in TB.

Paul Maurice will make a huge impact. I can't tell the future and I'm pretty sure he can't either. So he might or he might not. Only time will tell.

Montreal did nothing to improve won't make the playoffs but TO will. Man I wish he could put a little money on this one. My educated guess is that Mtl will finish ahead of TO, regardless of playoffs.

As for the author of these comments, well what can I say that our friends on this board haven't already said. He has always hated Mtl, and looks for any excuse to tear them down and build up his beloved leafs. Big deal, he can go have diner with Don Cherry, Greg Millen, Bob and Harry, Kypreos and all the other TSN, CBC, Sportsnet and the Score reporters next May to commemorate the last "great" leaf team (or have they all been great since then, we just haven't noticed).

Montreal did nothing to improve itself and will not make the playoffs. But Toronto will.