Extention for Gainey

heet_150 · Guru

Extention for Gainey

barry33 · Guru

I am happy to see some stability now to the habs front office. That will allow for some continuity in the organisation in the areas of drafting, and hopefully, coaching.

Ando · Guru

OK...And-o just has to ask this...

...did they overpay him as well?????

(like you weren't thinking the exact same thing!!!)

barry33 · Guru

Ando wrote:

OK...And-o just has to ask this... ...did they overpay him as well????? (like you weren't thinking the exact same thing!!!)

I am not sure..but the job security is nice

Figaro · Guru

Ando wrote:

OK...And-o just has to ask this...
...did they overpay him as well?????
(like you weren't thinking the exact same thing!!!)

everyone in the NHL is overpaid. Imagine that you mandate is to build a winner - you have $44M to spend (and, might I add, not a cent comes from your pocket). You want to sell out every home game , please fans and keep your job. So, hey, it's not my money, who cares. They are all overpaid considering that they play sports for a living. In a couple of years, all teams will have no choice but to spend the cap and there will be a fair spread of talent. Should Briere have gotten $5M? Richards got $7M and Kovalev $4. You gotta spend to get the players and you have to spend more to keep them from walking. So, as long as there are Montreal Canadiens, they call all make $10M for all I care.

barry33 · Guru

Figaro wrote:

Ando wrote: OK...And-o just has to ask this... ...did they overpay him as well????? (like you weren't thinking the exact same thing!!!) everyone in the NHL is overpaid. Imagine that you mandate is to build a winner - you have $44M to spend (and, might I add, not a cent comes from your pocket). You want to sell out every home game , please fans and keep your job. So, hey, it's not my money, who cares. They are all overpaid considering that they play sports for a living. In a couple of years, all teams will have no choice but to spend the cap and there will be a fair spread of talent. Should Briere have gotten $5M? Richards got $7M and Kovalev $4. You gotta spend to get the players and you have to spend more to keep them from walking. So, as long as there are Montreal Canadiens, they call all make $10M for all I care.

Figaro what peeves me off about the so called "New NHL" is this. We lost a whole season of hockey because it was supposed to fix the lunacy that was NHL salaries. We the fans sat through a year of watching AHL and women's hockey for enetertainment because it was going to "fix the league". Here we are, 2 years later and a cap that is at 44 million and climbing. We have teams that are still willing to pay ridiculous numbers to players (see Marc Savard, see Patrick Elias, see Zdano Chara and teams like the habs still struggling to get the cash to attarct big name UFA's. Can anyone tell me what has been "fixed" here?

AB Habman · Guru

heet_150 wrote:

From TSN.ca: MONTREAL – The Montreal Canadiens have signed general manager Bob Gainey to a contract extension through the 2009-2010 season. "We are very happy that Bob Gainey has extended his association with the Montreal Canadiens leading to the franchise's Centennial Year in 2009-10," said team president Pierre Boivin. "Bob has put together a very strong hockey management team, and his leadership is a source of inspiration for our fans and all members of the Canadiens' organization." Gainey also took the opportunity to announce some changes in the Canadiens' Hockey Department. Pierre Gauthier has been appointed Assistant General Manager, and will remain as head of professional scouting. Julien BriseBois becomes Vice-President of Hockey Operations. Michel Boucher and Denis Morel are joining the Canadiens' scouting group under Director of Player Recruitment and Development; Trevor Timmins will be covering the province of Quebec. Finally, Doug Gibson was hired as a professional scout, and will join Gordie Roberts who has been working as a pro scout since 2001. Gainey became the 15th General Manager in the history of the Montreal Canadiens on June 2, 2003. The Canadiens participated in the Stanley Cup Playoffs in each of his two seasons as General Manager. He also took the Head Coaching duties for the second half of the 2005-06 season. Through a 16-year NHL career, all as a member of the Canadiens, Bob Gainey won the Stanley Cup on five occasions and added another Cup as General Manager of the Dallas Stars, in 1999.

Now his 3 year plan can turn into a 7 year plan

JohnM · Guru

What has been fixed is that the talent must be spread around. Look at Buffalo, there is no way they are keeping that line up together. We were able to get Samsonov and the better our team does, hopefully this will get us the kind of players we need.

Also it is much more important to build from within. You can't just throw $ out there and expect to contend.

JohnM · Guru

AB Habman wrote:

Now his 3 year plan can turn into a 7 year plan

Wasn't it a 5 year plan? Don't recall.

Habtastic · Guru

It was a 5 year plan... Ab is just being... well Ab. :)

What I do like is that the Habs, knowing that they are limited in what they can spend on players, are using their extra cash to bolster all the other areas of the organization. That shows me a serious commitment to winning. There are many teams that have not done that according to what I have read in The Hockey News.

New NHL means more opportunity for players with real skill and a much more exciting game. Salaries are still a bit ridiculous, but not nearly as bad as the 10-12 million dollar deals before. Some profit sharing means more teams can stay healthy and as John said, there is a better distribution of talent.

Habtastic

Peart_2112 · Veteran Member

barry33 wrote:
Here we are, 2 years later and a cap that is at 44 million and climbing. We have teams that are still willing to pay ridiculous numbers to players (see Marc Savard, see Patrick Elias, see Zdano Chara and teams like the habs still struggling to get the cash to attarct big name UFA's. Can anyone tell me what has been "fixed" here?

Shades of the Rangers under Neil Smith except that now teams can only afford to throw big money at 1 or 2 players instead of pulling a Steinbrenner and trying to buy a complete team. As for the Habs struggling to get money to attract big name players I disagree just a little. They offered more to Shanny than he signed for and the they also offered more to Arnott than he signed for. The Habs sell out every home game and Gillette seems willing to part with the money required to sign the UFA's. Basically I think if our team shows the potential to go deep in the playoffs over the next couple of years that we might have more luck signing some of the big name players and next years crop of UFA's looks like it will be even better than this years. Alot of teams are already having cap problems this year so it could be even worse for them (and others) next year.

heet_150 · Guru

barry33 wrote:

Figaro what peeves me off about the so called "New NHL" is this. We lost a whole season of hockey because it was supposed to fix the lunacy that was NHL salaries. We the fans sat through a year of watching AHL and women's hockey for enetertainment because it was going to "fix the league". Here we are, 2 years later and a cap that is at 44 million and climbing. We have teams that are still willing to pay ridiculous numbers to players (see Marc Savard, see Patrick Elias, see Zdano Chara and teams like the habs still struggling to get the cash to attarct big name UFA's. Can anyone tell me what has been "fixed" here?

It all boils down to parity. If teams want to blow their brains out on one player, and hope that that one player will carry the entire team, then they are welcome to try. Carolina struggled to make it to the salary floor, and they put to gether a team that gelled, and played well together (albeit the biggest bunch of whiners I have seen since the Maple Leafs). Buffalo, same thing. We lost a season of hockey, in my opinion, in order to share the wealth/talent/winning around the league, thereby eliminating (or close to eliminating) the weekly reports of teams folding and their financial woes. I hear about the increasing or climbing cap. This is the first year where the cap moved. Who's to say that league revenues will continue to increase? The NHL may not be the flavour of the month in the US cities that never should have received a franchise in the first place. I think it is too soon to say that the new CBA doesn't work.

I'm going to wonder out loud, maybe someone here can help out. What if league revenues drop? Does that give ownership the ability to open players' contracts and re-negotiate if they are over the cap? Or, do they have to trade to get under the cap?