If you believe media reports, Ryder's days as a Hab are numbered!!!

Ando · Guru

If you believe media reports, Ryder's days as a Hab are numbered!!!

macneil · Guru

didnt see this post when i mad my post , this helps mtl. i wonder if there is some truth to the ryder in the dog house theory , i havnt seen any written proof , just idle hearsay .

barry33 · Guru

Ya thats it..lets dump our only goal scorer Bob because he has the audacity to ask for more money than "Robero". Are you telling me that Kovalev and Robero are "defensively responsible" ?!???????!???!??????????!!!!! Ribs has to go to the team bbq at the end of the year to have someone introduce him to Huet.

gfeaver · Veteran Member

good one Barry. love the line about the bbq.

macneil · Guru

and-o where did you hear this , you say medis reports can you post a link so i can read it . txs

NEWFIEHABSFAN · Senior Member

I say that you will hear a lot of this talk about bad blood until ryder is signed, right now , you can't see gainey praise ryder up to much or it will be used against him at the arb... hearing.

Cleghorn · Veteran Member

No one detested Ribs more than I did but I saw him as one of our hardest workers last year... and he's out of my dog house.

I think Ryder's a slacker (very talented but a slacker) and Kovalev's a quitter ( a very talented quitter, perhaps the NHLs most talented player).

I'm not saying I'm right about who BG should keep and who should be dumped.

I never win hockey pools - I can't pick my teams by a player's numbers - I like hard work, that's it.

I have been in the same regular season and play-off pools for 30 years - my buddies are always saying about my pool teams "Cleg, I'd be proud to go to war with that team but they ain't winnin' this hockey pool."

I'm not bragging, not complaining - it just is what it is. Every October and every April I've tried to change how I see the the hockey world, just can't do it.

In my world BG is free to trade Ryder and should trade Kovalev.

NEWFIEHABSFAN · Senior Member

Cleghorn wrote:

No one detested Ribs more than I did but I saw him as one of our hardest workers last year... and he's out of my dog house. I think Ryder's a slacker (very talented but a slacker) and Kovalev's a quitter ( a very talented quitter, perhaps the NHLs most talented player). I'm not saying I'm right about who BG should keep and who should be dumped. I never win hockey pools - I can't pick my teams by a player's numbers - I like hard work, that's it. I have been in the same regular season and play-off pools for 30 years - my buddies are always saying about my pool teams "Cleg, I'd be proud to go to war with that team but they ain't winnin' this hockey pool." I'm not bragging, not complaining - it just is what it is. Every October and every April I've tried to change how I see the the hockey world, just can't do it. In my world BG is free to trade Ryder and should trade Kovalev.

TRADE away some of our best players, if i was an owner, i would not hire you as my GM, i would take a 30 and twenty-something goal-scorer slackers any day, especially, a young 30 goal scorer who can get better and a twenty plus scorer who is dangerous every time he steps on the ice!

Habtastic · Guru

I am leaning towards Clegger on this one... stats are nice, but they don't win ya' championships.

Habtastic

plouf · Guru

Ryder, if he stays with the team, will be our most improved player this year. I'm another one who thought he actually wasn't that great last year, even if he did get goals. Stats aren't everything.

But Ryder definitely has the potential to be more physical and more of an all-around player, and I don't think a laid-back attitude is necessarily a bad thing if he bounces back. Remember, Ryder is a guy who's worked hard to get where he is. I don't think he's really a slacker deep down. Just some sophomore slump is all. Let's hope he gets signed and Gainey is just recognizing that (like Ribeiro) he's a young guy who needs discipline once in a while. Ryder has to remember he'll only continue to be a top-2 line guy if he keeps working and learning the game.

barry33 · Guru

Habtastic wrote:

I am leaning towards Clegger on this one... stats are nice, but they don't win ya' championships. Habtastic

My point is that say what you want about Ryder being lazy, out of shape or whatever. The bottom line is that he is the only legitimate goal scorer on a team desperately in need of goal scoring. Think about it. Just a coupel years ago Ryder was toiling away in hockey purgatory in the East Coast League. Does his game need work? Absolutely. But the kid is young and learning. He scored over 30 goals last season. How many did Koivu have? Kovalev? In fact I will go on record as saying that Kovalev should hang his head in shame that a guy like Ryder outscores him.

Stats are nice, especially when no one else on the team seems to be able to put the puck in the net.

Habtastic · Guru

True, Ryder is an example of guy who we should have patience with. I would prefer to keep him than trade him.

Habtastic

macneil · Guru

i cant believe the people clammering about ryder being our only 30 goal scorer , well so was zeds a few years back and where is he now and what was he making 1.9ish . the fact is ryder had 30 goals good for him , he had a total of 55 points to koivu 62 points and kovys 65. both in less games . now i want ryder to stay but hes not worth more than 2.2-2.5 . people talk about goals as if the are the only way to get points , well ill bet ryder didnt get any of those by himself , he usualy score off a nice pass or after a scramble . kovy can and has made his own ice and scored some of his goals by himself .koivu has never been a pure goal scorer hes the guy that sets up the others such as ryder and higgins . so in short we need to keep ryder but only if its in our best interest .

Andy · Veteran Member

And let's all jump to conclusions with negatively like the majority of this board. Let whatever happens happen. It sounds like I am listening to the fan 590 about The Toronto Maple Leafs.

Andy · Veteran Member

So what are your thoughts now MR Negative ???????????????????

macneil · Guru

whom are you refering to andy , there are alot of negative post here.

Diehardhabsfan · Veteran Member

Andy wrote:

And let's all jump to conclusions with negatively like the majority of this board. Let whatever happens happen. It sounds like I am listening to the fan 590 about The Toronto Maple Leafs.

if everything was positive, this site would be boring,lol