any big names left....

NEWFIEHABSFAN · Senior Member

any big names left....

Diehardhabsfan · Veteran Member

Serge Aubin, C, 31; Peter Bondra, RW, 38; Mike Dunham, G, 34; Derek MacKenzie, C, 25; Ronald Petrovicky, RW, 29. Tom Fitzgerald, RW, 37; Travis Green, C, 35; Eric Healey, LW, 31; Brad Isbister, LW, 29; Dan LaCouture, LW, 29; Josh Langfeld, RW, 28; Pat Leahy, RW, 26; Brian Leetch, D, 38; Ian Moran, D, 33. Rory Fitzpatrick, D, 31. Cale Hulse, D, 32; Brian Boucher, G, 29; Mike Leclerc, LW, 29; Bryan Marchment, D, 37. Mark Recchi, RW, 38 Milan Bartovic, RW, 24; Eric Daze, LW, 30. Jan Hrdina, C, 30; Martin Prusek, G, 30; Radoslav Suchy, D, 29.Nathan Perrott, LW, 32; Jeremy Stevenson, RW, 31; Jaroslav Svoboda, LW, 25. Cory Cross, D, 35; Manny Legace, G, 33; Jason Woolley, D, 36. Radek Dvorak, RW, 29; Todd Harvey, RW, 31; Michael Peca, C, 32; Dick Tarnstrom, D, 31; Igor Ulanov, D, 36. Jan Bulis, LW, 28; Todd Simpson, D, 33. Yanic Perreault, C, 35. Travis Brigley, LW, 28; Wade Dubielewicz, G, 27; John Erskine, D, 26; Eric Godard, RW, 26; Jeff Hamilton, C, 28; Justin Papineau, C, 26; Tomi Pettinen, D, 29; Wyatt Smith, C, 29. Martin Rucinsky, LW, 35; Jason Strudwick, D, 30; Petr Sykora, RW, 29. Dominik Hasek, G, 41; Brad Norton, D, 31; Vaclav Varada, LW, 29. Donald Brashear, LW, 34; Eric Desjardins, D, 37; Brian Savage, RW, 35; Chris Therien, D, 34. Boyd Devereaux, C, 27; Oleg Kvasha, LW, 27; Jamie Rivers, D, 31; Geoff Sanderson, C, 34. Eric Boguniecki, RW, 31; Konstantin Koltsov, RW, 25; Lyle Odelein, D, 38; Tomas Surovy, LW, 23; Ryan VandenBussche, LW, 33. Reinhard Divis, G, 30; Dean McAmmond, LW, 32; Steve Poapst, D, 37; Scott Young, 38, RW. Jason Allison, C, 31; Ed Belfour, G, 41; Aki Berg, D, 28; Tie Domi, RW, 36; Alexander Khavanov, D, 34; Eric Lindros, C, 33; Clarke Wilm, C, 29. Wade Brookbank, D, 28; Sean Brown, D, 29; Anson Carter, RW, 32; Trevor Linden, C, 36; Richard Park, RW, 30; Eric Weinrich, D, 39.

Sorry about them being so bunched together guys, it was just a quick cut n paste job

Nil d · Guru

I say we make offers to Ulanov, Perreault, and Todd Simpson.

Just kidding.

Honest, there's only slim pickin's left..............

Habsfan4life · Member

I say we should bring back Desjardins back to mtl

beakermania · Senior Member

Cap means anyone coming in will have to be accompanied by an equal salary dump, we are close to the cap if you remember we still have to pay ryder and perezhogin.

Nil d · Guru

Habsfan4life wrote:

I say we should bring back Desjardins back to mtl

That one I'd agree with. I'd even try Eric Weinrich for a year to see if his 39-year-old legs have anything left in them.

barry33 · Guru

beakermania wrote:

Cap means anyone coming in will have to be accompanied by an equal salary dump, we are close to the cap if you remember we still have to pay ryder and perezhogin.

Cap space is shot ( I am still bewildered as to how people thought we had this bonanza of cap money to go around and yet we have none..this after the only real addition being Samsonov). Anything we get now will need to be via the trade route.

Muller93 · Guru

barry33 wrote:

beakermania wrote: Cap means anyone coming in will have to be accompanied by an equal salary dump, we are close to the cap if you remember we still have to pay ryder and perezhogin. Cap space is shot ( I am still bewildered as to how people thought we had this bonanza of cap money to go around and yet we have none..this after the only real addition being Samsonov). Anything we get now will need to be via the trade route.

I figure Gainey is playing it smart...Give Ribs another shot and if he sucks...let someone pick him up off waivers...same goes for Bonk...no one wants to give anything up in terms of a trade anyhow...so the best thing to do is give em' a shot.

If it does not work than let them go and free up some cap space mid season for a FA towards the end of the year to replace Ribs.

And I figure we will see Chipchura step in the last 20 games as our 4yh line guy instead of Bonk anyway...

what do you think?

hockeyman · Senior Member

Is Bulis not feeling the Love. He must have overrated his own talent or teams know what he really is (a fast,scared,neutral ice turnover king and can't put the puck in the net type of player)

macneil · Guru

cap is not shot we are at 39 mil with ryder to go , we have a little room but jersey is shot ,we are getting close . but if we were to add we would have to subtract equaly. we cant just sign someone . take away yann danis (they have him as a dman)and were at 39,250,000 , if you give ryder 2.25 were at 41,500,000 , 2.5 to spare , lol

Pos Name 2006-07 2007-08 2008-09
C Saku Koivu 4,750,000 4,750,000 4,750,000
RW Alexei Kovalev 4,500,000 4,500,000 4,500,000
LW Sergei Samsonov 3,525,000 3,525,000
G Cristobal Huet 2,875,000 2,875,00
D Craig Rivet 2,565,000
C Radek Bonk 2,394,000
C Sheldon Souray 2,242,000
C Mike Ribeiro 1,900,000
RW Mike Johnson 1,900,000
G David Aebischer 1,900,000
D Francis Bouillion 1,877,000 1,877,000 1,877,000
D Andrei Markov 1,750,000
D Mathieu Dandenault 1,725,000 1,725,000 1,725,000
C Steve Begin 1,000,000 1,000,000 1,000,000
D Mike Komiarek 946,900
LW Christopher Higgins 673,000
RW Alexander Perezhogin 627,000
C Mark Streit 600,000 600,000
C Garth Murray 575,000 575,000
D Yann Danis 543,400
RW Aaron Downey 475,000
C Tomas Plekanec 450,000
Totals 39,793,300

barry33 · Guru

macneil wrote:

cap is not shot we are at 39 mil with ryder to go , we have a little room but jersey is shot ,we are getting close . but if we were to add we would have to subtract equaly. we cant just sign someone . take away yann danis (they have him as a dman)and were at 39,250,000 , if you give ryder 2.25 were at 41,500,000 , 2.5 to spare , lol Pos Name 2006-07 2007-08 2008-09 C Saku Koivu 4,750,000 4,750,000 4,750,000 RW Alexei Kovalev 4,500,000 4,500,000 4,500,000 LW Sergei Samsonov 3,525,000 3,525,000 G Cristobal Huet 2,875,000 2,875,00 D Craig Rivet 2,565,000 C Radek Bonk 2,394,000 C Sheldon Souray 2,242,000 C Mike Ribeiro 1,900,000 RW Mike Johnson 1,900,000 G David Aebischer 1,900,000 D Francis Bouillion 1,877,000 1,877,000 1,877,000 D Andrei Markov 1,750,000 D Mathieu Dandenault 1,725,000 1,725,000 1,725,000 C Steve Begin 1,000,000 1,000,000 1,000,000 D Mike Komiarek 946,900 LW Christopher Higgins 673,000 RW Alexander Perezhogin 627,000 C Mark Streit 600,000 600,000 C Garth Murray 575,000 575,000 D Yann Danis 543,400 RW Aaron Downey 475,000 C Tomas Plekanec 450,000 Totals 39,793,300

Bob will bank the 2.5 as he has already indicated, for trade deadline and playoff insurance..so the cap is shot lol...but we are still in better shape than most. My point is that I was all excited about everyone jumping up and down about all the cap money we have..it was not the case.

barry33 · Guru

Muller93 wrote:

barry33 wrote: beakermania wrote: Cap means anyone coming in will have to be accompanied by an equal salary dump, we are close to the cap if you remember we still have to pay ryder and perezhogin. Cap space is shot ( I am still bewildered as to how people thought we had this bonanza of cap money to go around and yet we have none..this after the only real addition being Samsonov). Anything we get now will need to be via the trade route. I figure Gainey is playing it smart...Give Ribs another shot and if he sucks...let someone pick him up off waivers...same goes for Bonk...no one wants to give anything up in terms of a trade anyhow...so the best thing to do is give em' a shot. If it does not work than let them go and free up some cap space mid season for a FA towards the end of the year to replace Ribs. And I figure we will see Chipchura step in the last 20 games as our 4yh line guy instead of Bonk anyway... what do you think?

what do I think? I think I will puke if I am forced to agonize through another season with what we had at Center ice last year..get the bucket ready Mildred

macneil · Guru

and if we dump aebby we will save 1.3 more , we are not capped out but we have lettle room . but the good news is we dont need any , we'll have a full team at 42 million . barry IF they can get ribs to work he may produce with those linemates .

-- Edited by macneil at 16:13, 2006-07-16

Muller93 · Guru

barry33 wrote:

what do I think? I think I will puke if I am forced to agonize through another season with what we had at Center ice last year..get the bucket ready Mildred

Hey barry. You forget that Ribs was a star in junior...Many leading people in hockey were considering him to be a star in the NHL...lead the habs in points as a very young guy. He has potential.

Koivu is a tremendous center on any team.

The key is Ribeiro. If he can stop being such a fancy boy and turn his attention to hockey...he could be a pretty good addition...AND THIS COMING FROM ME!!!

Otherwise...I'll have XL fries and coke with my whopper Ribby...Ya scrawny, pointy shoe wearin' pansy...

Jay1982 · Guru

Abby has 1.9 mil in salary, if the souray rumor is true (which i have not been able to confirm) thats another 2.432 mil...and im sure that both these guys won't be traded without a packaged deal. We can get a good center through trade. However I wouldn't expect a trade to happen anytime in the next 2 weeks, except for one trade I'm hearing about, however its a long shot. I'd expect Bob to stay put till late August.

macneil · Guru

yes abby makes 1.9 but danismakes 6ish so we lose 1.9 but add .6 and what trade would that be jay

-- Edited by macneil at 20:57, 2006-07-16

beakermania · Senior Member

Macneil also remember the roster you posted is only 22 men. 22 guys listed + Ryder - Danis. NHL roster size is 23 men. This final place will come from whatever Rookie makes the team as Gainey has stated one spot is open for rookies.

You can take out Danis money, but you have to add in the rookie who will make the team and is not listed. I think most of us assume it will be Kostitsyn or Lapierre. If its Kostitsyn I'm sure he has a bigger NHL salary than Danis. You are looking at approx 2mill in free space.

-- Edited by beakermania at 09:03, 2006-07-17

beakermania · Senior Member

Barry as for your question, We all looked at the cap space and forgot that some of it would be eaten up through raises for Huet, Ryder, Ribs (who thought he'd get a raise??), Bouillion, and our other various RFA, UFAs.

Jay1982 · Guru

barry33 wrote:

My point is that I was all excited about everyone jumping up and down about all the cap money we have..it was not the case.

Actually, that cap money that I was excited about was used, on Samsonov. Anyone who though that Gainey was gonna sign multiple high profile UFAs needs to share what they are smoking.

barry33 · Guru

Jay1982 wrote:

barry33 wrote: My point is that I was all excited about everyone jumping up and down about all the cap money we have..it was not the case. Actually, that cap money that I was excited about was used, on Samsonov. Anyone who though that Gainey was gonna sign multiple high profile UFAs needs to share what they are smoking.

I don't share

Jay1982 · Guru

lol, glad I didn't offend you

barry33 · Guru

Jay1982 wrote:

lol, glad I didn't offend you

If you go back to what Gainey said during the season last year he stated "It is our goal to bring in at least 3 free agents to fill some holes that we have" -La Presse- March 2006

Perhaps it is not moi who was smoking the funny stuff?

beakermania · Senior Member

Well Barry maybe included in that three number are Bouillion, and Huet our own UFAs who we brought back, or possibly Mike Johnson??

I don't know.

barry33 · Guru

beakermania wrote:

Well Barry maybe included in that three number are Bouillion, and Huet our own UFAs who we brought back, or possibly Mike Johnson?? I don't know.

I dont know..I think Gainey ran out of cash sooner than he thought (happens to the best of us) and had a more difficult time siging guys like Arnott than he anticipated for the reasons that have been discussed to death on here.

If he can pull the trigger on a center I am happy with what we have now..if not, I am rooting for Saks and Ribs to have outstanding years...if they do we will make a bit of noise

Jay1982 · Guru

I do thikn that Ribs will have a good year, with the habs or not.....