World Cup questions...

Ando · Guru

World Cup questions...

Diehardhabsfan · Veteran Member

I am with you And-o, I honestly don't get what all the fuss is about. I do imagine it is exciting to some people, but I just don't enjoy it

barry33 · Guru

Do you mean the world Diving Championships?!???! How anyone cand watch that game and enjoy looking at a bunch of grown men looking like they have been SHOT everytime someone gets within 5 feet of them is beyond me. The so caolled head butt from teh french player..I thought the Italian guy must be dead the way he went down..and by some MIRACLE he is up playing again.

I think that Ernest Angely, the great Baptist tv healer with the bad rug, must be laying the hands on these guys the way they m,ake miraculous recoveries from the brink of death. If soccer does NOTHING else to improve its sport it needs to do something about the diving and acting

Jay1982 · Guru

I dislike soccer for a few reasons, the main one, is that as soon as a player is touched, they go flying around like they just got a shotgun to the face.

brooklynhabfan · Guru

Ando wrote:

1. Does Brazil's 'Kaka' wear the number 2...or 22 on his jersey???
2. Is it over yet???
3. How does one miss the net on a penalty kick?
4. Is it over yet???
5. How can anyone criticize the NHL's rules given the likes of Italia and Portugal flopping all over the ground like landed salmon???
6. Is it over yet???
7. How on Earth did this become the World's most popular sport???
Honestly folks??? Is And-o the only one who just flat-out doesn't get-it???
BOORRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!

to answer

1. He does indeed wear 22 for AC Milan, his club team, but 8 for Brasil, as in "And-o 8 Kaka, and that's why the permagrump attack"

2. If you're referring to the Cup, then yes, it is. If you're referring to your first girlfriend's most common question, this is something which is private, and not for the board's general consumption.

3. The same way you manage to miss the point of threads sometimes, by striking too hard and not really respecting your target.

4. If you're referring to the Cup, then yes, it is. If you're referring to your painful gout and gas issues, this is something which is private, and not for the board's general consumption.

5. I see plenty of diving in the NHL. I guess if it hurt less on ice, we'd see even more.

6. If you're referring to the Cup, then yes, it is. If you're referring to your unfounded and recent optimistic streak, I'd say we're almost there.

7. Not everyone has the fortune to come from an uber-isolated country with odd and unique tastes. That's also why rum is so cheap elsewhere, because reality hurts less when you're drunk.

For something you're so bored by, you sure have worn a lot of rubber off the batmobile on this tune, eh -O?

barry33 · Guru

5. I see plenty of diving in the NHL. I guess if it hurt less on ice, we'd see even more.-brooky

Brooky, brooky,,brooky...SURE you will not compare the level of diving in soccer to the NHL? Please tell me you di dnot say that in seriousness or in any state of sobriety? Is there diving in hockey? Of course. But do hockey players go down every time a gust of wind from an oppositionj player blows on them? Do hockey players lay around on thie ice as if they have been shot, only to get up and play in the same shift (except Ribieor who is Portugese thus the soccer influence). Do hockey players lay there and plead with the ref long after the play has gone up ice? Case in point the "terrible head butt" delievered by the French star to the guys chest today. I have been hit harder by a mosquito while riding my bike. The guy gets a red card, and it is a miracle..halleluja the Italian player was healed and able to continue!!!!!!

The acting in soccer has quickly made the sport a laughing stock even to those who play it and follow it.

Jay1982 · Guru

barry33 wrote:

5. Do hockey players lay around on thie ice as if they have been shot, only to get up and play in the same shift (except Ribieor who is Portugese thus the soccer influence).

I couldn't stop laughing at the truth of this comment

brooklynhabfan · Guru

barry33 wrote:

5. I see plenty of diving in the NHL. I guess if it hurt less on ice, we'd see even more.-brooky
Brooky, brooky,,brooky...SURE you will not compare the level of diving in soccer to the NHL? Please tell me you di dnot say that in seriousness or in any state of sobriety? Is there diving in hockey? Of course. But do hockey players go down every time a gust of wind from an oppositionj player blows on them? Do hockey players lay around on thie ice as if they have been shot, only to get up and play in the same shift (except Ribieor who is Portugese thus the soccer influence). Do hockey players lay there and plead with the ref long after the play has gone up ice? Case in point the "terrible head butt" delievered by the French star to the guys chest today. I have been hit harder by a mosquito while riding my bike. The guy gets a red card, and it is a miracle..halleluja the Italian player was healed and able to continue!!!!!!
The acting in soccer has quickly made the sport a laughing stock even to those who play it and follow it.

No, you're absolutely right, but I needed an answer to #5

Personally, I was sickened by the way the Cup was played by teams like Portugal and Italy. Teams like England and the US and a few others played a clean (if boring) game, and that's what it should be. If they don't get some video replays or a second ref at least, the sport's credibility is on the line.

There's another name for a cat that applies here but....

And did you honestly think I was sober after the Cup final? Barry, Barry, Barry!

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Power · Veteran Member

There is so much more in soccer than just acting and diving if you concentrate to something else than just those 2 things. If you look individual performances of players like Ronaldinho, Messi and Riquelme just to name few and i mean that don´t just look those players when they fall down, but look that that magic what they have at their feet and their minds. There is also players who play that game with great heart, like Cannavaro, Rooney and Heinze again just to name few. My point is that everything depends on what parts of the game you concentrate.

But if after all this you still feel that soccer is boring, change the channel.

barry33 · Guru

Power wrote:

There is so much more in soccer than just acting and diving if you concentrate to something else than just those 2 things. If you look individual performances of players like Ronaldinho, Messi and Riquelme just to name few and i mean that don´t just look those players when they fall down, but look that that magic what they have at their feet and their minds. There is also players who play that game with great heart, like Cannavaro, Rooney and Heinze again just to name few. My point is that everything depends on what parts of the game you concentrate. But if after all this you still feel that soccer is boring, change the channel.

Power- plese do not get me wrong..I love the game. The future Mrs barry33 plays the game and is quite good at it if I do say so..she has played all her life right through university. I marvel at the fitness, the skill level and ball handling skills of these guys..and no way would I ever play goal and try to stop that thing..it must be going like abullet!

My point is that I just feel that something needs to be done to clean up that particular aspect of the game. When I go watch my girflfriend play they do not lay around clutching their legs or crying or screaming at the ref when he does not call it. And they play very hard, I would not wanna be out there with them..some of them are just plain vicious lol. I just think that the men have gotten away with it for so long it is ingrained into their culture. Soccer or football is a great game...it could be made even greater if they stopped trying to win an Oscar.

Johab · Guru

Id almost take offense to this thread had i liked soccer more, but truth be told. And-o has a point and for anyone who hasnt grown up with Soccer being #1, it is almost impossible to respect the game. The Diving that goes on is such a black mark on the sport. Not to mention they have the WORST fights. I mean at least in baseball punches are thrown! Soccer fights consist of kicking and headbutting ( See Zidane in World Cup Final ) Honestly, i dont know how professionals can bring themselves to diving and acting/looking so stupid. Ribeiro did it once and the ENTIRE place was pissed yet its dismissed 20+ times per game for the so called " Greatest Game In The World" Im glad the league i play in, the majority of players are also hockey players or fans and get pissed when they see the diving and get on the playes case ( sometimes even the players own teammates)

barry33 · Guru

Johab wrote:

Id almost take offense to this thread had i liked soccer more, but truth be told. And-o has a point and for anyone who hasnt grown up with Soccer being #1, it is almost impossible to respect the game. The Diving that goes on is such a black mark on the sport. Not to mention they have the WORST fights. I mean at least in baseball punches are thrown! Soccer fights consist of kicking and headbutting ( See Zidane in World Cup Final ) Honestly, i dont know how professionals can bring themselves to diving and acting/looking so stupid. Ribeiro did it once and the ENTIRE place was pissed yet its dismissed 20+ times per game for the so called " Greatest Game In The World" Im glad the league i play in, the majority of players are also hockey players or fans and get pissed when they see the diving and get on the playes case ( sometimes even the players own teammates)

Well put Johab. My point is that as skilled as these players are, it is totally overshadowed by the diving and acting. Yesterday there were more bodies prone the Paris Hilton has seen in her bed.

Ando · Guru

...thank Gawd that is FINALLY over, although someone needs to tell all the idiots still tramping around my neighbourhood in their 'pimped out' Honda's waving their flag and honking their horn while playing 'hip-hop' from a stereo that is clearly worth at least twice the value of the car!

(Although pay-back hornings were fun bright-and-early this morning...accompanied, of course, buy chants of EEETALYAHHH!!!)

beakermania · Senior Member

Forza Azzuri!!!!!

CAMPIONI DEL MONDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just came in from Partying for a minute to post this.

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Ando · Guru

Champions el divo’s!!!

Honestly…how do these guys look at themselves in the mirror without puking?!?!?

And-o LAUGHS when a guy gets hoofed in the shin (apparently by a ghost) then gets it frozen before deciding that he doesn’t require the stretcher (which is just a joke).

And, since And-o doesn’t want to criticize without suggestion…here are two simple rules changes that would make Soccer the greatest sport in the World;

Abolish the off-side rule.

Give penalties for diving…and make them retroactive (as in, reviewable enforcement AFTER each game where cards are assessed!

barry33 · Guru

Ando wrote:

Champions el divo’s!!! Honestly…how do these guys look at themselves in the mirror without puking?!?!? And-o LAUGHS when a guy gets hoofed in the shin (apparently by a ghost) then gets it frozen before deciding that he doesn’t require the stretcher (which is just a joke). And, since And-o doesn’t want to criticize without suggestion…here are two simple rules changes that would make Soccer the greatest sport in the World; Abolish the off-side rule. Give penalties for diving…and make them retroactive (as in, reviewable enforcement AFTER each game where cards are assessed!

What I get a kick out of is the "magic water" that the trainers use over there! A guy goes down, clutching his shin and screaming...the trainer comes out with a water bottle, squirts water all over the guy's ankle, the guy gets up and starts to play. What is in that water and could the habs trainers get their hands on some?

Ando · Guru

barry33 wrote:

What is in that water and could the habs trainers get their hands on some?

Hey Barry33…that H2O would be no good, since it apparently is not compatible with a set of balls!!!

…promoting that behavior is shameful!

Imagine a whole field of Ribeiro’s??? THAT is the World Cup!!!

P.S. the irony of it is….NOBODY needs to wear a ‘cup’!!!

beakermania · Senior Member

I agree that the diving needs to be stopped. However from what i have seen, every team dives, not just the portuguese or the Italians that everyone likes to pick on. I mean did you see the Penalty Kick France was awarded in the first 7 minutes of the game??? They guy went down without even being touched. It was a horrible call. The game is too fast for just one ref to cover the whole field.

Hard to blame the players though, they are just doing whatever it takes to win a championship at such a high level of play.

The rules change needs to come down from the top. Fifa needs to work with the referees to eliminate the diving in the game. There are many things that can be done, retroactive yellows for dives after the game, two referee system, more power to the line judges, etc...

ScottishHAB · Veteran Member

The popularity of soccer worldwide is due to the fact it is easy to play with a minimum of equipment.A ball is all you really need.Don't confuse the cheating at the top level with the reasons fot the overall popularity of the game across the world.

Ando · Guru

ScottishHAB wrote:

.....A ball is all you really need....

The irony of it all is that you only need one ball!

And-o was truly disgusted by the gutless pukes diving all over the place! Gaw'd it really is a joke!!!

How many times did those same two paramedics with the 'docs' label on their back go running out onto the field with a stretcher???

...imagine a guy like Messier rolling around like a five year old (then peeking over at the ref)?

NEWFIEHABSFAN · Senior Member

THE only team that reminds me of soccer( diving) in the NHL (DIVING) is mmmmmmmmmmmm ... the stanley cup chumps.. the canes in the play-offs!

beakermania · Senior Member

As far as the stretchers go, that was a big mistake by fifa. It was originally brought in as a rule to speed up play. IE if someones hurt get them on the sidelines and treat them there as play goes on.

Now it has backfired and really slowed down play. Its not a proper dive if you don't call for a stretcher.