Would you give Bertuzzi a chance here?

JohnM · Guru

Would you give Bertuzzi a chance here?

Johab · Guru

JohnM wrote:

I was thinking about players who needed a change of scenery. Heatley, Thornton, Theodore come to mind. So far 2 out of the 3 are doing very well. Would you be interested in giving Bertuzzi a shot in a Habs uniform. This guy could be awesome here, he's massive and can dominate a game when he's on. Personally, I would forgive whatever he did if he dawned a Habs jersey next year.

Theodore has played 2 games....lets not give it to him yet!! But yeah, Bertuzzi brings luggage with him, we dont need the distractions with the already overhyping montreal media!! look what happened to theo! ( i still refuse to believe the sharking had anything to do with his play, but everyone seems to INSIST )

JohnM · Guru

Not giving it to Theo, just saying these are players that needed a change of scenery. I think Theo will not do well in Colorado, he's just not the same goalie with the new rules and smaller equipment. He's got quick feet but too small to cover the net.

AB Habman · Guru

JohnM wrote:

Not giving it to Theo, just saying these are players that needed a change of scenery. I think Theo will not do well in Colorado, he's just not the same goalie with the new rules and smaller equipment. He's got quick feet but too small to cover the net.

John, I agree with both your posts.

Theo, will be an average goalie from here on in.

I would give big Bert a try also.

Habtastic · Guru

I wouldn't touch Bert. He is not nearly as effective in the new NHL and he is a disaster waiting to happen. Don't need another problem on this team.

Habtastic

Habs and Avs Fan · Veteran Member

Habtastic wrote:

I wouldn't touch Bert. He is not nearly as effective in the new NHL and he is a disaster waiting to happen. Don't need another problem on this team.

Habtastic

He has been playing really good recently..... I would give him a chance, we need a superstar.

NEWFIEHABSFAN · Senior Member

JohnM wrote:

I was thinking about players who needed a change of scenery. Heatley, Thornton, Theodore come to mind. So far 2 out of the 3 are doing very well. Would you be interested in giving Bertuzzi a shot in a Habs uniform. This guy could be awesome here, he's massive and can dominate a game when he's on. Personally, I would forgive whatever he did if he dawned a Habs jersey next year.

i believe your right, bertuzzi needs a change to revieve his career and i see no other place for a change than montreal, we could use him.

mperra (Admin) · Guru

JohnM wrote:

I was thinking about players who needed a change of scenery. Heatley, Thornton, Theodore come to mind. So far 2 out of the 3 are doing very well. Would you be interested in giving Bertuzzi a shot in a Habs uniform. This guy could be awesome here, he's massive and can dominate a game when he's on. Personally, I would forgive whatever he did if he dawned a Habs jersey next year.

No way would I give Bertuzzi a chance here. He can go with Phoenix. Gretzky thought so fond of him for our Olympic team, he'd be a perfect fit in the desert!

habgirl · Guru

Nope, nada, niet, non, no way, never, nuh uh, not, no.

Get my drift?

superhab · Guru

Bertuzzi could be a great fit in MOntreal. The habs need a big guy who can score like Bertuzzi. People are upset with Bertuzzi because of the Moore thing but the truth is the whole incident has been sensationalized by the media. All Bertuzzi did was try and fight with Moore who refused. Moore DID go after Naslund. He should have accepted all fights and relized that if he didn't something bad would happen. People say Bertuzzi is not a team player because he stepped up and defended a Teammate that was injuried due to a knee on knee hit that was uncalled for. Think about the Hal Laycoe incident with the Rocket. What if someone took out Saku intentaionally? And the next game someone went after that guy. Would it be such a bad thing?

Bertuzzi could be good/

Habtastic · Guru

I almost always agree with you Superhab, but this time you have blinders on. Bertuzzi has been a skilled goon his whole career and is known for his violence and stupid penalties and being a jerk. He's a criminal who has shown little repentance and was let off easy by the league by being suspended for only 11 games and allowed to go to the Olympics where he helped bring the team down like he did to the Canucks this year. I have no use for this guy.

Habtastic

habsforeverfan · Veteran Member

Habtastic wrote:

I almost always agree with you Superhab, but this time you have blinders on. Bertuzzi has been a skilled goon his whole career and is known for his violence and stupid penalties and being a jerk. He's a criminal who has shown little repentance and was let off easy by the league by being suspended for only 11 games and allowed to go to the Olympics where he helped bring the team down like he did to the Canucks this year. I have no use for this guy. Habtastic

Couldn't agree with you more Habtastic. Bert is more of a liability on and off the ice than an asset. I said it before that Bertuzzi has a way of making bone head plays that costs the team big time.

Montreal doesn't need him. The Canadiens have always been a classy team and have never been a safe haven for questionable personal. Players who were not team players were always shipped off in spite of their talents. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Richer say that he wanted to play for TB or Florida when expansion happened? Then all of a sudden, Richer was traded for Kirk Muller. Mind you, I would take that trade again but I remember the contraversy that followed after Richer's comment. He had said that it was taken out of context but Habs management takes the team approach above all and Bert is not person who thinks of the team.

superhab · Guru

habsforeverfan wrote:

Bert is not person who thinks of the team.

You don't do what you did to Moore because of a personal Vendetta when he went after your captain you do it for a Team redemtion. But i must agree with part of what you and habtastic had said earlier about Bertuzzi having a tendency to take dumb penelties the problem is that early in the year so did Begin. I would take only because i think Gainey could straighten him out as far as penelties go. And about the problem with the Montreal Media, if he plays well no one in the media will mention it. The Montreal Media has a very short track memory if he's consistent scorer like he could be we would solve the problem of having a bonafide scorer.

habsforeverfan · Veteran Member

superhab wrote:

habsforeverfan wrote: Bert is not person who thinks of the team. You don't do what you did to Moore because of a personal Vendetta when he went after your captain you do it for a Team redemtion. But i must agree with part of what you and habtastic had said earlier about Bertuzzi having a tendency to take dumb penelties the problem is that early in the year so did Begin. I would take only because i think Gainey could straighten him out as far as penelties go. And about the problem with the Montreal Media, if he plays well no one in the media will mention it. The Montreal Media has a very short track memory if he's consistent scorer like he could be we would solve the problem of having a bonafide scorer.

I agree that players have to stand up for their teammates but there are more acceptable and honorable ways to do so. I am with you and others who say that if someone tried to take out Saku, then there should be someone to step up but not by taking an approach that will hurt the team. If Bert leveled Moore with a clean hit then no problem but redemption by sucker punching is just asking for trouble.

superhab · Guru

habsforeverfan wrote:

I agree that players have to stand up for their teammates but there are more acceptable and honorable ways to do so. I am with you and others who say that if someone tried to take out Saku, then there should be someone to step up but not by taking an approach that will hurt the team. If Bert leveled Moore with a clean hit then no problem but redemption by sucker punching is just asking for trouble.

THe thing is that Bertuzzi tried to fight Moore but Steve declined and skated off, probobly added to the frustration of Bertuzzi. I'm not condoning what he did I'm just saying that it was blown way out of context by Bettman who is an idiot. He should've stuck to basketball but thats a diffrent argument.

habsforeverfan · Veteran Member

superhab wrote:

...I'm just saying that it was blown way out of context by Bettman who is an idiot. He should've stuck to basketball but thats a diffrent argument.

Total agreement on Bettman. Total idiot who doesn't understand hockey! Wonder how the NHL could have chosen him to be commissioner !?!?

The Kahuna · Guru

superhab wrote:

THe thing is that Bertuzzi tried to fight Moore but Steve declined and skated off, probobly added to the frustration of Bertuzzi. I'm not condoning what he did I'm just saying that it was blown way out of context by Bettman who is an idiot. He should've stuck to basketball but thats a diffrent argument.

I agree with that statement completely, if Steve Moore had been a stand up guy and faced the music for his cheap shot on Naslund the previous game, none of this would have happened. I understand Bertuzzi's frustration, but you can't let an attack from behind where the "victims" neck gets broken go unpunished. It was an unfortunate incident for sure. I also agree that Bettman is a stooge, a New York Lawyer running the NHL...the games greats must be spinning in their graves.

As for Bertuzzi as a Hab, I could live without the side show if I had a choice...but would cheer for him if he ever wore a Habs uniorm.