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AB Habman · Guru

Did anyone see...

MC Girl · Guru

Yeah & there's a huge controversy over it too.

They only went upstairs for approx. 2 mins before they made their decision, when other times this has happened they've taken longer than 10 mins to get the other angle tapes. Last night's footage came out about 10 minutes after the goal.

The team was very P.O this morning & said there would be huge problem for the league if they miss out on the playoffs by only 1 point.

Could you imagine if that actually happened?

Unreal!!!

Nil d · Guru

AB Habman wrote:

Did anyone see the goal that was scored by Oilers on Wild that was missed on review in Toronto? If Oilers miss the playoffs by one point...there'll be heads rolling.

I heard about that one but have not seen it.

Could you give me a brief description of the non-goal (or a link to a video clip), please?

MC Girl · Guru

Nil d wrote:

AB Habman wrote: Did anyone see the goal that was scored by Oilers on Wild that was missed on review in Toronto? If Oilers miss the playoffs by one point...there'll be heads rolling. I heard about that one but have not seen it. Could you give me a brief description of the non-goal (or a link to a video clip), please?

Click on video highlights link high or low..... below

4/7: Edmonton at Chicago high | low

you'll see all the highlights including the over net cam that shows the puck going in the net.

-- Edited by MC Girl at 07:49, 2006-04-08

-- Edited by MC Girl at 07:54, 2006-04-08

Nil d · Guru

MC Girl wrote:

Nil d wrote: AB Habman wrote: Did anyone see the goal that was scored by Oilers on Wild that was missed on review in Toronto? If Oilers miss the playoffs by one point...there'll be heads rolling. I heard about that one but have not seen it. Could you give me a brief description of the non-goal (or a link to a video clip), please? Click on video highlights link high or low..... below 4/7: Edmonton at Chicago high | low you'll see all the highlights including the over net cam that shows the puck going in the net.-- Edited by MC Girl at 07:49, 2006-04-08 -- Edited by MC Girl at 07:54, 2006-04-08

Thanks CM! Ab said "Oilers/Wild", so I was looking at the wrong game.

That puck was surely in...................

MC Girl · Guru

I put in the wrong link... that's my bad!!!!

Here ya go.....

4/6: Edmonton at Minnesota high | low

-- Edited by MC Girl at 08:14, 2006-04-08

hockeyman · Senior Member

That's brutal. I wonder if the Laffs would get the same call. I highly doubt it.

heet_150 · Guru

Nil d wrote:

Thanks CM! Ab said "Oilers/Wild", so I was looking at the wrong game. That puck was surely in...................

Nil/MC/AB - It happened to them two nights in a row, you were all right. The only difference is that the Oilers eventually won the game against the Blackhawks.

habs93 · Veteran Member

The Oilers might have been jobbed on the goal but I think it happened in the first period so they had lots of time to make up for the lost goal......

MC Girl · Guru

But the point in fact was.... it was a goal!

They should have won that game. Doesn't matter when it happened, the end result... they lost by one. That's not cool.

barry33 · Guru

Well up until a couple years ago there was no video replay so there were many goals that were missed and non goals that were called goals. Personally I like the human element in sports. I coach minor hockey and there are many occassions that , in my view, we scor eand goals are disallowed (the ref refuses to go "upstairs" to the player's Dad's with the camcorder). BUT, there are other times where we are given a goal that I know should not have counted. These things have a way of evening out in sports. Let me ask you this. Had the shoe been on the other foot and Minnesota had a goal disallowed that Edmonton KNEW was an obvious mistake, would McTavish had said anything? Uhmmm no. He would have taken his 2 points and gone home with a smile on his face saying "oh well, that's hockey". When you play poorly and are only within a goal of the opposition in game, you put your team in a position where one bad break can cost you the game.

MC Girl · Guru

barry33 wrote:

Well up until a couple years ago there was no video replay so there were many goals that were missed and non goals that were called goals. Personally I like the human element in sports. I coach minor hockey and there are many occassions that , in my view, we scor eand goals are disallowed (the ref refuses to go "upstairs" to the player's Dad's with the camcorder). BUT, there are other times where we are given a goal that I know should not have counted. These things have a way of evening out in sports. Let me ask you this. Had the shoe been on the other foot and Minnesota had a goal disallowed that Edmonton KNEW was an obvious mistake, would McTavish had said anything? Uhmmm no. He would have taken his 2 points and gone home with a smile on his face saying "oh well, that's hockey". When you play poorly and are only within a goal of the opposition in game, you put your team in a position where one bad break can cost you the game.

I know what you're saying, but this is the way it's done now. There was video replay during this game & it was an obvious goal. They've taken longer than 10 mins to get all angles before calls are made in the other games this season. To make a call like that so close to the playoffs was BS. Reminds me of the tactics the NHL seems to have with Toronto. A quick call & turn the other cheek.

I understand this kinda thing happens, but right before playoffs??? They should be taking all the time that's needed to get an absolute answer before a call is made. You can plain-as-day see the puck cross the line. Giving certain teams an unfair advantage is not the way this game should be played. If they wait for the other tapes in other games, they should do it for all games, for all teams.

AB Habman · Guru

MC Girl wrote:

barry33 wrote: Well up until a couple years ago there was no video replay so there were many goals that were missed and non goals that were called goals. Personally I like the human element in sports. I coach minor hockey and there are many occassions that , in my view, we scor eand goals are disallowed (the ref refuses to go "upstairs" to the player's Dad's with the camcorder). BUT, there are other times where we are given a goal that I know should not have counted. These things have a way of evening out in sports. Let me ask you this. Had the shoe been on the other foot and Minnesota had a goal disallowed that Edmonton KNEW was an obvious mistake, would McTavish had said anything? Uhmmm no. He would have taken his 2 points and gone home with a smile on his face saying "oh well, that's hockey". When you play poorly and are only within a goal of the opposition in game, you put your team in a position where one bad break can cost you the game. I know what you're saying, but this is the way it's done now. There was video replay during this game & it was an obvious goal. They've taken longer than 10 mins to get all angles before calls are made in the other games this season. To make a call like that so close to the playoffs was BS. Reminds me of the tactics the NHL seems to have with Toronto. A quick call & turn the other cheek. I understand this kinda thing happens, but right before playoffs??? They should be taking all the time that's needed to get an absolute answer before a call is made. You can plain-as-day see the puck cross the line. Giving certain teams an unfair advantage is not the way this game should be played. If they wait for the other tapes in other games, they should do it for all games, for all teams.

Good point! The reality is we have replay and if we're relying on that technology than it has to be done flawlessly. Remember, the Gelanas goal against Tampa (game six). That was a goal also. Basically, Calgary won the Cup.

MC Girl · Guru

Also, to have it happen two games in a row.... absolutely unnecessary!

I glad they got a win out of one of the games. I believe the ____ would have hit the fan had they lost the second game.

Nil d · Guru

Remember Dallas winning the Cup on a goal by Brett Hull when he was clearly standing in the crease? The goal should not have counted, according to the rules of the day.

I'm all for the human element, but you need technology to prevent that from happening.

The Kahuna · Guru

MC Girl wrote:

Also, to have it happen two games in a row.... absolutely unnecessary! I glad they got a win out of one of the games. I believe the ____ would have hit the fan had they lost the second game.

Wow, those 2 goals were definately in from what I saw. Seriously, why have video review if you STILL can't make the right call...is anyone talking Canadian conspiacy theory yet

MC Girl · Guru

The Kahuna wrote:

Wow, those 2 goals were definately in from what I saw. Seriously, why have video review if you STILL can't make the right call...is anyone talking Canadian conspiacy theory yet

LOL.... But that still doesn't explain the Leafs calls Kahuna.

Please note, I'm not defending them because I'm a fan of the Oilers (or any other Canadian team besides the Habs for that matter) I'd be venting the same way if I saw that kind of call on any team. (Well except if it was the Leaf's... I'd need to wear adult diapers I'd be laughin' sooo hard)

Seriously, How unjust can this league be?

davidb · Guru

How can u miss that one. Thpeople looking at the replay upstairs should be embaressed. That is shameful Can the oilers do anything about it??????

AB Habman · Guru

Nil d wrote:

Remember Dallas winning the Cup on a goal by Brett Hull when he was clearly standing in the crease? The goal should not have counted, according to the rules of the day. I'm all for the human element, but you need technology to prevent that from happening.

Good one Nil. Sabres could of won the Cup if officials would of had the balls to review it. Hull was in the crease before he recieved the pass form madano...NO GOAL!