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AB Habman · Guru

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plouf · Guru

AB Habman wrote:

Gainey has had three seasons to trade Ribs of which the first, he had good trade value. Maybe Gainey thinks more about him than we think? The so called great Boston upset wouldn't of happened in the last season because we wouldn't of made the playoffs without him. Gainey probably realizes that he is the only true play-maker on this team for now as we are so thin down the middle. Can't really compare to Bonk and Begin because they're key defensive players. So for offense, we have Plecs, Saks and Ribs. Wow, why would he want to trade him until he finds someone to replace his offense?

You kidding me with this? Do you seriously think Gainey was going to put HIMSELF on the block by trading the number one darling of the Montreal media while he was putting up the numbers? Why take that risk? Would any manager have done this? Ribeiro was playing way above expectations and was providing solid second-line offense. It seemed like every game at least one of the lines would provide goals. As you point out, he was a key player on the team.

I'm sure he's kicking himself for not trading Ribeiro in the off-season though. Oh well, guess all the GMs in the league remembered the dive, the fight with the captain and the brilliant playoff performance.

And what's with the "so called great Boston upset" comment?
Sheesh, even winning a playoff series is a nearly a bad thing for you if it means Koivu looks good and Ribeiro doesn't.

mperra (Admin) · Guru

plouf wrote:

You kidding me with this? Do you seriously think Gainey was going to put HIMSELF on the block by trading the number one darling of the Montreal media while he was putting up the numbers? Why take that risk? Would any manager have done this? Ribeiro was playing way above expectations and was providing solid second-line offense. It seemed like every game at least one of the lines would provide goals. As you point out, he was a key player on the team. I'm sure he's kicking himself for not trading Ribeiro in the off-season though. Oh well, guess all the GMs in the league remembered the dive, the fight with the captain and the brilliant playoff performance. And what's with the "so called great Boston upset" comment? Sheesh, even winning a playoff series is a nearly a bad thing for you if it means Koivu looks good and Ribeiro doesn't.

One thing I noticed on Thursday up there in the media circle, the English media hates Robiero with a passion. They, the media, using expletives all the time.

plouf · Guru

mperra (Admin) wrote:

plouf wrote: You kidding me with this? Do you seriously think Gainey was going to put HIMSELF on the block by trading the number one darling of the Montreal media while he was putting up the numbers? Why take that risk? Would any manager have done this? Ribeiro was playing way above expectations and was providing solid second-line offense. It seemed like every game at least one of the lines would provide goals. As you point out, he was a key player on the team. I'm sure he's kicking himself for not trading Ribeiro in the off-season though. Oh well, guess all the GMs in the league remembered the dive, the fight with the captain and the brilliant playoff performance. And what's with the "so called great Boston upset" comment? Sheesh, even winning a playoff series is a nearly a bad thing for you if it means Koivu looks good and Ribeiro doesn't. One thing I noticed on Thursday up there in the media circle, the English media hates Robiero with a passion. They, the media, using expletives all the time.

Did they always? Just curious. I mean has Ribeiro become a contentious English vs. French issue? Was he always or is this just recent?

AB Habman · Guru

plouf wrote:

AB Habman wrote: Gainey has had three seasons to trade Ribs of which the first, he had good trade value. Maybe Gainey thinks more about him than we think? The so called great Boston upset wouldn't of happened in the last season because we wouldn't of made the playoffs without him. Gainey probably realizes that he is the only true play-maker on this team for now as we are so thin down the middle. Can't really compare to Bonk and Begin because they're key defensive players. So for offense, we have Plecs, Saks and Ribs. Wow, why would he want to trade him until he finds someone to replace his offense? You kidding me with this? Do you seriously think Gainey was going to put HIMSELF on the block by trading the number one darling of the Montreal media while he was putting up the numbers? Why take that risk? Would any manager have done this? Ribeiro was playing way above expectations and was providing solid second-line offense. It seemed like every game at least one of the lines would provide goals. As you point out, he was a key player on the team. I'm sure he's kicking himself for not trading Ribeiro in the off-season though. Oh well, guess all the GMs in the league remembered the dive, the fight with the captain and the brilliant playoff performance. And what's with the "so called great Boston upset" comment? Sheesh, even winning a playoff series is a nearly a bad thing for you if it means Koivu looks good and Ribeiro doesn't.

You're the same guy that said Gainey is a genious. Why then would he be too intimidated by the so called Darling Media to do his job? Especially like Mario stated, Ribs is hated by a part of the media.

A good GM will do the best thing for his team regardless of media. Most media people will be supportive if the trade pans out. They know the Habs better than I or you.

I think Gainey's patience hurt him in this Ribs thing and he should of traded him while he had value in the last season while teams wanted him. Also now like I stated, he realizes that he needs his offense even if it's little due to the lack of it down the middle.

plouf · Guru

I think Gainey is probably less intimidated by the media than some others might be, but I'm sure the media frenzy of montreal gets to him too. It would have taken a heck of a lot of guts to trade Ribeiro after last season's emergence, dive, playoff meltdown, fight with captain and all.

I agree he should've traded Ribs, but hindsight is 20/20. How could he have known at the time that Ribeiro was going to take 4-5 months to start playing hockey again? It's possible also that nobody wanted him after the dive and the reputation he was getting? Who knows. Anyway, I agree. Mistake on his part, especially after acquiring Bonk. (although it wasn't Bonk but Plekanec who made Ribeiro seem expendable at the halfway mark of this season) I just don't think it was a move anyone could've expected him to make at the time.

Btw, I don't think Gainey's tenure thus far has been mistake-free by any stretch. And I don't think he's a genius (I never said this, where are you getting this?). I am still confident he's the man for the job though.

-- Edited by plouf at 17:12, 2006-03-18