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AB Habman wrote:  I gather if he has been taken this since he was 21 that it was used to mask a steroid during that time! That's a long time to be on a steroid!  This is a further kick in the pants to Gainey who was already feeling the heat for the signing and his poor play! Gainey now has no choice but to move him! He stuck by him through his family troubles but this goes beyond that! You can bet that the paying faithfulls will be all over Gainey to move him! Remember what Gainey said " Our fans are our shareholders " Let's see how true this is!  Now the only problem is Gainey will have to eat some of his contract to move him as Theo has zero trading value!  Let's all get ready to hear Theo's justication in tonights press conference! It's going to sound like this....."actually I've used it for a long time due to the stress of playing in such a high calibre league, I have been losing my hair. My doctor suggested it then and it has helped"  Also note that Theo was told back in Sept. ( I think they said) that he tested positive for this and continued to use it! Why???? would he continue especially with the Olympics around the corner? He has to be masking something that he hoped would help him out of his poor play! Seriously man... I try and be  indifferent to your posts but its almost impossible. You truly believe that Jose is taking growth inhibitors and as a result think that Gainey "has no choice" but to trade him. Have you ever looked at him? This is a real question... have you ever looked at Jose Theodore? Do me a favour and tell me who of these two guys is on steroids: Here is a hint... ITS NOT JOSE!!!! Thanks again though for towing the party line by finding yet another bad reason to trade a player.


 Theo is towing the party line out of town on his own! It has nothing to do with my comments!


 But I agree with you this time, Theo isn't using something to bulk him up, that's obvious but there's no way of knowing if he is using to recover quickly from injuries! We'll never know because it's not like he will admit it!


 My thought though is either way, it leaves a doubt in the minds of the paying fans! Who do you think they'll start booing this season? Not Huet!


 I just think Gainey may have to trade Theo sooner or later because of his poor play and the fans may start to influence when it happens!


 



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curse them performance un-enhancing drugs to hell !!!

Maybe Theo was taking it to Rogain his confidence.

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keVin wrote: curse them performance un-enhancing drugs to hell !!! Maybe Theo was taking it to Rogain his confidence.


Instead of coiffing up the puck.


 



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plouf wrote: In the press conference before the game on CJAD someone said that the only steroid masked by this drug is Nandrolene. Nandrolene is used by a lot of different types of athletes, often as a way of healing quickly from physical strain and stress. There are a bunch of soccer players in Europe who have been tested positive for this drug in the last few years (including big names like Edgar Davids, who got suspended). It's not strictly a bulker-upper, in other words. I hope this is not the reason... On the other hand, Theo's been using this drug openly, by prescription, so there's a good case on his side. In fact theteam Physician admits to refilling his presecription that he gets form a DERMATOLOGIST and has been taking for 7 years..really does not sound much like black market stuff do me..sorry but I am on Theo's side on this one. If he is guilty..so is the team Dr. Of stupidity.


to be honest  im on jose's side also   i mean  if you have seen my hair  its quite long   (i would show yas but   you know.   but i have been losing hair since i was about 20  (and going grey)  and trust me   taking those hair growing drugs have crossed my mind as well  but i don't have the money    just cuz his hair is "nice" doesn't mean hes not balding    trust me on this one   it may just be legit



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so thats whats wrong with him , his hair is getting in his eyes so he cant see the puck on those easy ones .

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Exerpt from:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/sports/national/2006/02/09/Sports/sp_theodore20060209.html

Ted Saskin, the NHLPA Executive Director, issued a supportive statement Thursday night in which he said "It is very clear that Jose Theodore is taking Propecia for the sole purpose of treating hair loss. Since Propecia is a prescription product that is banned as a masking agent but can be approved in situations where it is prescribed for hair restoration purposes, players may apply for a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE).

Sakin went on to say that prior to the beginning of the joint NHL/NHLPA performance enhancing substances program's start, Theodore had applied for a TUE in order to keep using the hair medication.

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Just got back from a flea training convention...

Desi- Awesome again, you're definitely our resident PJ O'Rourke

Nil, two zings that zing so zingily, Jose - heh heh. Coiff - I'd like to buy a hee

Maybe Theo doesn't realize Propecia stands for:

Pucks Roll On Past Every Chance I 'Ave

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The troubling part is that Theodore knew as late of December that was banned on the WADA list and continued to take it.


Unfazed that if tested, and tested positive, he would be banned from Olympic and international events for 2 years, but not from the NHL because it's not banned for the NHL.


You draw your own conclusions.



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Hey Nil... the other guy is JASON Giambi. Not Jose Canseco... but that really would have backfired on me if that were the case.


And AB I agree maybe it is time to trade Theo... but I would rather we trade up, or make an even trade, instead of losing what can still be an elite goaltender in the NHL, all because of a panicky move on BGs part. As far as I can tell BG isn't going to trade him so we better get used to the guy sticking around for a while.



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keVin wrote: curse them performance un-enhancing drugs to hell !!!
Figaro wrote: Maybe Theo was taking it to Rogain his confidence.
Nil d wrote: Instead of coiffing up the puck.
 


Too good. Mario, you gotta quote this in your blog. Please? lol. And the WADA is right, propecia is a masking agent...masks your bald head.

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Hey Nil... the other guy is JASON Giambi. Not Jose Canseco... but that really would have backfired on me if that were the case. And AB I agree maybe it is time to trade Theo... but I would rather we trade up, or make an even trade, instead of losing what can still be an elite goaltender in the NHL, all because of a panicky move on BGs part. As far as I can tell BG isn't going to trade him so we better get used to the guy sticking around for a while.


Sorry about that mdm, my bad.  I saw the green hat and assumed it was Canseco.


I'll be more careful next time..........


 



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mdmrules wrote: Hey Nil... the other guy is JASON Giambi. Not Jose Canseco... but that really would have backfired on me if that were the case. And AB I agree maybe it is time to trade Theo... but I would rather we trade up, or make an even trade, instead of losing what can still be an elite goaltender in the NHL, all because of a panicky move on BGs part. As far as I can tell BG isn't going to trade him so we better get used to the guy sticking around for a while. Sorry about that mdm, my bad.  I saw the green hat and assumed it was Canseco. I'll be more careful next time..........  

Not to worry Nilsey, they are pretty much interchangeable. 2 overgrown idiots who made way too much money doing 'roids.

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Funny, I thought Giambi looked a bit like THEO Fleury in that picture.

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Ok..I think I have finally figured out what has been bugging Theo this year..these are teh side effects of taking Propecia:


"Side effects with Propecia have been reported by fewer than one in 50 (2%) men treated. Side effects may include decreased sex drive, impotence, swollen or tender breasts and decreased volume of ejaculate. You should contact your doctor immediately if you experience any rare side effects such as a skin rash, hives or swelling of the face or lips. "


It would appear to me that it is the combination on impotence and swollen breasts that are throwing his timing off. I know it does it for me.


Perhaps it is time he contacted Kramer and asked about "The Bro" (or manssiere if you prefer)



-- Edited by barry33 at 11:14, 2006-02-10

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Ok..I think I have finally figured out what has been bugging Theo this year..these are teh side effects of taking Propecia: "Side effects with Propecia have been reported by fewer than one in 50 (2%) men treated. Side effects may include decreased sex drive, impotence, swollen or tender breasts and decreased volume of ejaculate. You should contact your doctor immediately if you experience any rare side effects such as a skin rash, hives or swelling of the face or lips. " It would appear to me that it i sthe combination on impotence and swollen breasts that ar ethrowing his timing off. I know it does it for me.


Theo misread the label - he thought it said "importance"............




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We have some goalies on this site.  Ask any one of 'em what you'd rather be - flexible or bulky - and the answer is (or at least should be) obvious.


Theo taking steriods?  Doesn't make even one iota of sense.  Forget the fact that he's built like Andy Dick.  What possible reason could there be for a goalie, at any stage, to take steriods?  So he can hit the puck further down ice while his team kills off a power play?  That stuff is NOT going to make him quicker, it is NOT going to make him see the puck any better, and it is NOT going to assist him in any way other than adding some pimple to his back and shrinking the size of his pooter.


Regarding the Propecia thing.  Those of us on the back nine, desperately seeking to retain any semblance of youth, know what this stuff is.  It is not supposed to "grow" hair, it is supposed to retard the loss of hair.  Said another way, you loose it more slowly if you take this stuff.  It also elevates your PSA, so if you go to a doctor for a finger-up-the-rectum exam, make sure he (or if you're one of the lucky ones, she) knows about it.


 



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 Well Propecia just got some free advertising!!!!!  With all the hair Jose has, I bet the phones and web site are flooded. The people at Propecia are loving this.  Maybe its time to buy some shares in the company.

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"im just saying the fact that he is using a drug to help hair growth at his age doesnt make sense." Um...well, let's just say it does for some of us, and it doesn't for some of us....


Plouf has nailed it.  I am hair disadvantaged.  My two sons were totally bald by the time they hit 24.  Some people get over it, some don't.  Who cares, anyway?  Obviously Theo.  Call it vanity, insecurity, narcisssim, or anything you choose.  Bottom line is this story belongs in the Who Freakin' Cares bucket.  Unfortunately it is another example of "news" running berserk. We are surrounded by news types that lunge at anything that will make their "journalistic" careers blossom.  Sad thing is, we'll probably never know for sure what this guy might have become because he's dead meat now.


Oh well. Hair today, gone tomorrow.



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Apparently, Theo's family has a genetic dermatogolical (sp?) condition that started to plague Jose at around 20ish. So, he starting taking Propecia.

In any event, who are we to question the underlying/unmentioned reasons, if any exist? It's one of the few issues that Ted Saskin and Bill Daly are in agreement. In addition to the NHLPA and the NHL, Pierre Boivin, Dr. Mulder, and BG are supporting Theo on this one.

Personally, I feel as though the issue is closed.

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Apparently, Theo's family has a genetic dermatogolical (sp?) condition that started to plague Jose at around 20ish. So, he starting taking Propecia. In any event, who are we to question the underlying/unmentioned reasons, if any exist? It's one of the few issues that Ted Saskin and Bill Daly are in agreement. In addition to the NHLPA and the NHL, Pierre Boivin, Dr. Mulder, and BG are supporting Theo on this one. Personally, I feel as though the issue is closed.

I am with you Johnny. It is a non-issue. What does baffle me however is how Theo reacts to it. He knew for sometime that, although it would not affect his NHL status, it would potentially take him out of International Competition for at least 2 years (not that he had much chance at that but you never know..if he turns it around and the Habs miss the playoffs, he would get serious consideration for the World's in the spring). The fact that his hair and his looks seem to take precedence over that baffle me. His statement was "I would rather have my hair then be  a bald 3rd string goalie for Team Canada". Funny..right now he is a 3rd string goalie WITH hair.

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. The fact that his hair and his looks seem to take precedence over that baffle me. His statement was "I would rather have my hair then be  a bald 3rd string goalie for Team Canada". Funny..right now he is a 3rd string goalie WITH hair.


..............on Team Average at Best............




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Do you think Theo has toupee for his propecia?


Brook, where is your bald Theo pic? Bring it on!!


This is all so amusing. And the Habs are on fire (a small camp fire, not a bonfire...yet!)

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Do you think Theo has toupee for his propecia?


Maybe he buys it from scalpers.


Man, we could keep doing this all day, couldn't we, Fig?




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Poor guy even had a problem when he was a kid



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brooklynhabfan wrote:

Poor guy even had a problem when he was a kid




Figured he'd have more of a hulk hogan thing going....not a CJ

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Do you think Theo has toupee for his propecia?

Nil d wrote: Maybe he buys it from scalpers.



Maybe that's why he couldn't do his job this year? Quite a hairy predicament for someone supposed to be a lockfor team MVP. Or maybe he was hoping BG would offer an extension?

-- Edited by Figaro at 16:45, 2006-02-10

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Well, well, well....Theo finally got his name mentioned in the Norwegian media...

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Figaro wrote: Do you think Theo has toupee for his propecia? Nil d wrote: Maybe he buys it from scalpers. Maybe that's why he couldn't do his job this year? Quite a hairy predicament for someone supposed to be a lockfor team MVP. Or maybe he was hoping BG would offer an extension?--______________________________________________________________________


If not, they will have to part ways.  That would distress Habgirl. I wouldn't care, as I find him a bouffon.


Your turn.......


 



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I hear Theo's grecian Gainey's palm to start again, but Bob tells him that starting is just for men.

Soon enough he'll be sent to Hamilton for conditioning, and if he combs around, he'll get a chance to mullet over, and hopefully land flat on the top of his game again...

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Nil d wrote:


 


I hear Theo's grecian Gainey's palm to start again, but Bob tells him that starting is just for men.

Soon enough he'll be sent to Hamilton for conditioning, and if he combs around, he'll get a chance to mullet over, and hopefully land flat on the top of his game again...




Don't you mean "ro-gainey?"

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