I HONESTLY BELIEVE

Muller93 · Guru

I HONESTLY BELIEVE

brooklynhabfan · Guru

Muller93 wrote:

That there was locker room issues on this team. That CJ tried to mediate the two sides. That most people within the organization new WHO the stink bomb was. And that they tried to trade him but the whole NHL had figured out he is worth very little.
SO, since he does have potential...why not see if a coaching change will get his arse in gear rather than trade him for nothin?
So now here is what will happen: Ribero will be given 5-6 games to see how he responds...if nothing then they just get rid of him and pay half his salary to the other team. Better to get rid of the rotten apple if you can't extract any juice.
Then maybe his "friend" Theo can get his mind focused on the game rather than taking sides...and then perhaps the players will gel as a unit. But you gotta isolate the locker room rats before this team squares away...If Gainey can't sort out the rats, no one will...

Well put. I see Theo's phoenix-like rise from the ashes as the only major positive that could come out of this, but as you say, it's locker room chemistry, and you're not gonna make a pastrami sandwich when all you have is fat...

Pucky · Veteran Member

Its sad to see CJ go.

We played so well at the beginning of season,we were in every game we had speed ,get up and go ,long stretch passes....

Usually it would take until january for a team to really get what the coach is trying to make them play.

Did they catch on to the game plan that fast,no, CJ's system was a more defensive game. Now, they are playing CJ's system and are have a hard time,maybe to small players?I don't know

We've got fast players....Hopefully we'll return to that faster standard of play

hockeyman · Senior Member

Hopefully it's time to stop sitting on leads and going into defensive shells. You get a lead you keep pushing until you bury your opponent.

Pablo Honey · Veteran Member

Why does the losing streak always boil down to Ribeiro? I doubt he has THAT much influence on the team. I doubt Gainey would fire his coach because of one second (now fourth) line centre.

While we're at it, let's blame Ribs for global warming. Yesterday was a warm day, I bet it's Ribs fault. All that hot air he's spewing is causing the temperature to rise.

Or maybe it's Ribs' fault that the dinosaurs are extinct.

Bottom line: He doesn't have that much of an impact on the team. The poor performances of guys like Kovy, Theo, and Koivu probably have more to do with CJ's dismissal than Ribs.

Johnny USA · Veteran Member

Pablo Honey wrote:

While we're at it, let's blame Ribs for global warming. Yesterday was a warm day, I bet it's Ribs fault. All that hot air he's spewing is causing the temperature to rise. Or maybe it's Ribs' fault that the dinosaurs are extinct. Bottom line: He doesn't have that much of an impact on the team.

And all this time I thought global warming and the extinction of the dinosaurs was George Bush's fault. Can we now blame Hurricane Katrina on Ribiero?

Pablo Honey · Veteran Member

Johnny USA wrote:

Pablo Honey wrote: While we're at it, let's blame Ribs for global warming. Yesterday was a warm day, I bet it's Ribs fault. All that hot air he's spewing is causing the temperature to rise. Or maybe it's Ribs' fault that the dinosaurs are extinct. Bottom line: He doesn't have that much of an impact on the team. And all this time I thought global warming and the extinction of the dinosaurs was George Bush's fault. Can we now blame Hurricane Katrina on Ribiero?

LOL.

They're in cahoots. It's the new conspiracy theory.

davidb · Guru

yes a vast right wing conspiracy

Muller93 · Guru

Pablo Honey wrote:

Why does the losing streak always boil down to Ribeiro? I doubt he has THAT much influence on the team. I doubt Gainey would fire his coach because of one second (now fourth) line centre. While we're at it, let's blame Ribs for global warming. Yesterday was a warm day, I bet it's Ribs fault. All that hot air he's spewing is causing the temperature to rise. Or maybe it's Ribs' fault that the dinosaurs are extinct. Bottom line: He doesn't have that much of an impact on the team. The poor performances of guys like Kovy, Theo, and Koivu probably have more to do with CJ's dismissal than Ribs.

So what your saying is,you don't think one guy can upset the chemistry of a team?? Have you PLAYED hockey?

Chemistry---it's how cups are won and lost. Trust me, a clown like Ribero dancing around the dressing room in his loafers, fighting with the captain, floppin around on the ice, rouding up all the "local boy celebrities" for a night out...It screws up a TEAM. I say ship the rat somewhere where he is just another dumb looking skinny kid dressed in a really dumb looking outfit...good luck with that in some inner city Mikey...

NO of course not all the "blame him for global warming etc" talk. But can you blame one rat for a team chemisty problem...you bet you can...

Thrice · Member

i beg to differ Muller. I think your G-unit Ribs comments/insults are just as cute as they are uncalled for but that's another issue entirely. I agree that one guy can have a bad effect on a team but to the extent where you've only won 3 games out of the last what..20? i don't even wanna know what it is. There's no way Ribs can be solely blamed for that....

Nil d · Guru

Thrice wrote:

i beg to differ Muller. I think your G-unit Ribs comments/insults are just as cute as they are uncalled for but that's another issue entirely. I agree that one guy can have a bad effect on a team but to the extent where you've only won 3 games out of the last what..20? i don't even wanna know what it is. There's no way Ribs can be solely blamed for that....

Probably not, but he's one of the prime examples of the problem, along with Theodore and other underachievers.

Muller93 · Guru

Thrice wrote:

i beg to differ Muller. I think your G-unit Ribs comments/insults are just as cute as they are uncalled for but that's another issue entirely. I agree that one guy can have a bad effect on a team but to the extent where you've only won 3 games out of the last what..20? i don't even wanna know what it is. There's no way Ribs can be solely blamed for that....

Thrice. Exactly what is uncalled for. I am not the one doing all the stupid stuff. Lets have a look shall we:

1 Ribero fighting with the Captain. He did

2. Ribero flopping on the ice embarrasing his teamates. He did

3 Ribero plays like a softy. He does

4. Ribero making an ass of himself wearing loafers etc. He does

5 Ribero doing nothing all year. he hasn't

6. Ribero friends with Theo, Dags,Begin. all crap for past week. Coinicidence? I don't think so.

brooklynhabfan · Guru

Muller93 wrote:

Ribero fighting with the Captain, [etc.. ]

Absolutely smack on! Can't believe that Ribs is in the org. longer than CJ

Pablo Honey · Veteran Member

Muller93 wrote:

So what your saying is,you don't think one guy can upset the chemistry of a team?? Have you PLAYED hockey? Chemistry---it's how cups are won and lost. Trust me, a clown like Ribero dancing around the dressing room in his loafers, fighting with the captain, floppin around on the ice, rouding up all the "local boy celebrities" for a night out...It screws up a TEAM. I say ship the rat somewhere where he is just another dumb looking skinny kid dressed in a really dumb looking outfit...good luck with that in some inner city Mikey... NO of course not all the "blame him for global warming etc" talk. But can you blame one rat for a team chemisty problem...you bet you can...

Yes, I have played organized hockey.

And I didn't say that one player can't upset the chemistry of the team. What I'm saying is that I don't believe the Habs losing is due to horrible team chemistry. At the beginning of the season, when the Habs were winning, everyone was spewing out how "tight" this team was, INCLUDING with guys like Ribs.

At the end of my post, I said that the higher-calibre players like Theo, Koivu, and Kovy were probably more to blame. They've all been underachieving. Why doesn't anyone blame them?

In addition, I hate when fans talk about locker room chemistry. Until you're in that locker room day after day, you have no idea what the chemistry is like besides what the media reports and we all know that in Montreal, the media loves to sensationalize their hockey stories.

I just find the bashing Ribs thing is old and trite. He's an easy scape goat, but there are other more prominant reasons for the Habs recent woes.

AB Habman · Guru

Pablo Honey wrote:

Muller93 wrote: So what your saying is,you don't think one guy can upset the chemistry of a team?? Have you PLAYED hockey? Chemistry---it's how cups are won and lost. Trust me, a clown like Ribero dancing around the dressing room in his loafers, fighting with the captain, floppin around on the ice, rouding up all the "local boy celebrities" for a night out...It screws up a TEAM. I say ship the rat somewhere where he is just another dumb looking skinny kid dressed in a really dumb looking outfit...good luck with that in some inner city Mikey... NO of course not all the "blame him for global warming etc" talk. But can you blame one rat for a team chemisty problem...you bet you can... Yes, I have played organized hockey. And I didn't say that one player can't upset the chemistry of the team. What I'm saying is that I don't believe the Habs losing is due to horrible team chemistry. At the beginning of the season, when the Habs were winning, everyone was spewing out how "tight" this team was, INCLUDING with guys like Ribs. At the end of my post, I said that the higher-calibre players like Theo, Koivu, and Kovy were probably more to blame. They've all been underachieving. Why doesn't anyone blame them? In addition, I hate when fans talk about locker room chemistry. Until you're in that locker room day after day, you have no idea what the chemistry is like besides what the media reports and we all know that in Montreal, the media loves to sensationalize their hockey stories. I just find the bashing Ribs thing is old and trite. He's an easy scape goat, but there are other more prominant reasons for the Habs recent woes.

Well put! Because we are not behind closed doors with them, we also can't assume Ribs is the only culprit. It's even possible that Saks and Rivet are the instigators and there is no effort to resolve the issues! The prominant reasons are that the whole team is to blame!

Thrice · Member

Muller93 wrote:

Thrice wrote: i beg to differ Muller. I think your G-unit Ribs comments/insults are just as cute as they are uncalled for but that's another issue entirely. I agree that one guy can have a bad effect on a team but to the extent where you've only won 3 games out of the last what..20? i don't even wanna know what it is. There's no way Ribs can be solely blamed for that.... Thrice. Exactly what is uncalled for. I am not the one doing all the stupid stuff. Lets have a look shall we: 1 Ribero fighting with the Captain. He did 2. Ribero flopping on the ice embarrasing his teamates. He did 3 Ribero plays like a softy. He does 4. Ribero making an ass of himself wearing loafers etc. He does 5 Ribero doing nothing all year. he hasn't 6. Ribero friends with Theo, Dags,Begin. all crap for past week. Coinicidence? I don't think so.

Ribeiro fought with Saku, so what? Higgins fought with Komi...stuff happens. They are both to blame for this not just Ribeiro. It takes 2 to fight.

Ribeiro flopped on the ice because he was in pain. The pain then subsided and he taunted the other team about it. He might have made an ass out of himself to you but i thought it pissed off the bruins so much that it haunted them til we chased em out of the playoffs.

Plays like a softy? I'll admit he isn't going around hitting everything he sees...but look at him. How the heck do you expect him to go around being a bruiser. Get real man...

His loafers are the reason we are in a losing slump...

Ribs is in his second full season of NHL action with a year off in the middle...i didn't expect a whole lot neither should you...but he is atleast producing somewhat after being in the doghouse and demoted to 4th line duty.

and we're left with your friends arguement. Yeah Ribs, Dags and Theo are close...So are Rivet and Koivu...again the 2 sides should be mature enough to deal with it.

I understand you don't like Ribs at all but come on. The problems are much deeper than just him. I'd support you if you atleast acknowledged that and not continuously bash Ribeiro.

I'm not here to piss you off man but i just am seriously struggling to see why practically every single one of your posts have got comments regarding ribeiro lol...

Muller93 · Guru

Thrice wrote:

Muller93 wrote: Thrice wrote: i beg to differ Muller. I think your G-unit Ribs comments/insults are just as cute as they are uncalled for but that's another issue entirely. I agree that one guy can have a bad effect on a team but to the extent where you've only won 3 games out of the last what..20? i don't even wanna know what it is. There's no way Ribs can be solely blamed for that.... Thrice. Exactly what is uncalled for. I am not the one doing all the stupid stuff. Lets have a look shall we: 1 Ribero fighting with the Captain. He did 2. Ribero flopping on the ice embarrasing his teamates. He did 3 Ribero plays like a softy. He does 4. Ribero making an ass of himself wearing loafers etc. He does 5 Ribero doing nothing all year. he hasn't 6. Ribero friends with Theo, Dags,Begin. all crap for past week. Coinicidence? I don't think so. Ribeiro fought with Saku, so what? Higgins fought with Komi...stuff happens. They are both to blame for this not just Ribeiro. It takes 2 to fight. Ribeiro flopped on the ice because he was in pain. The pain then subsided and he taunted the other team about it. He might have made an ass out of himself to you but i thought it pissed off the bruins so much that it haunted them til we chased em out of the playoffs. Plays like a softy? I'll admit he isn't going around hitting everything he sees...but look at him. How the heck do you expect him to go around being a bruiser. Get real man... His loafers are the reason we are in a losing slump... Ribs is in his second full season of NHL action with a year off in the middle...i didn't expect a whole lot neither should you...but he is atleast producing somewhat after being in the doghouse and demoted to 4th line duty. and we're left with your friends arguement. Yeah Ribs, Dags and Theo are close...So are Rivet and Koivu...again the 2 sides should be mature enough to deal with it. I understand you don't like Ribs at all but come on. The problems are much deeper than just him. I'd support you if you atleast acknowledged that and not continuously bash Ribeiro. I'm not here to piss you off man but i just am seriously struggling to see why practically every single one of your posts have got comments regarding ribeiro lol...

Yep, you nailed all my points.