With all the opportunities to moan - why not enjoy this while you can?

brooklynhabfan · Guru

With all the opportunities to moan - why not enjoy this while you can?

Jay1982 · Guru

lmao, i love the pic

nietche · Veteran Member

wait a minute .... we're talking about the habs .... one of the most storied franchises in professional sports.

One lucky win against an injury riddled line up should NOT be what habs fans reflect on as a high point for the team (we're not LEAF fans, right?). Nothing less than consistent, hard work and wins that come about from OUT PLAYING the opposition is what I'm looking for .... it's what I grew up on watching the habs, and it's what I expect from the habs today.

-- Edited by nietche at 14:57, 2006-01-08

brooklynhabfan · Guru

nietche wrote:

wait a minute .... we're talking about the habs .... one of the most storied franchises in professional sports.
One lucky win against and injury riddled line up should NOT be what habs fans reflect on as a high point for the team (we're not LEAF fans, right?). Nothing less than consistent, hard work and wins that come about from OUT PLAYING the opposition is what I'm looking for .... it's what I grew up on watching the habs, and it's what I expect from the habs today.

Do you know this guy by any chance?

nietche · Veteran Member

Sorry , no .... is he perhaps a relation of your's brooklynhabfan?

brooklynhabfan · Guru

No, but funny story... this guy walks into a bar and the bartender says...

Nil d · Guru

brooklynhabfan wrote:

No, but funny story... this guy walks into a bar and the bartender says...

Bartender says "Zebra"?

brooklynhabfan · Guru

old joke... the bartender says "Why the long face?", but it's a horse that walks in, and, oh, never mind...

Trapper John · Member

nietche wrote:

wait a minute .... we're talking about the habs .... one of the most storied franchises in professional sports. One lucky win against an injury riddled line up should NOT be what habs fans reflect on as a high point for the team (we're not LEAF fans, right?). Nothing less than consistent, hard work and wins that come about from OUT PLAYING the opposition is what I'm looking for .... it's what I grew up on watching the habs, and it's what I expect from the habs today.-- Edited by nietche at 14:57, 2006-01-08

Nietche, I agree with you, and I think what should be savored is the way the Habs came on in the first period. Can't remember when I last saw that much determined checking and skating. But, half-way through the second period, what ever got them fired up seemed to wear off. They seemed content to cruise on the lead and in many cases the legs just weren't moving.

Maybe the pros can sense when their opposition is simply not clicking and can afford to ease up, but I would rather see a consistent, sustained effort than a waltz. They got away with that last night, but if they drop back into that old habit there will be more Pittsburg-like losses ahead.

Put another way... the game has three 20 minute periods. Whatever we have or lack in the Habs' talent pool, hard, determined skating can make up for a lot of shortcomings over the long haul. Playing a period-and-a-half of hockey won't work in this league.

nietche · Veteran Member

Thanks for the support Trapper.

I won't mind if the habs coast through a few second and third periods, IF they already have the game in the bag. And I'd like to see the habs win a few games in the first 20 or 30 minutes through consistent hard work, discipline ie no stupid penalties, and spirited play. And if there's a bit of lady luck along the way, so much the better.

The habs appeared to follow this recipe for the first 12 games or so, but ever since November it's been inconsistent play, lack of effort, and injuries.

Here's hopping that the pious Saint Lorette will bless the habs for the back half of the 05/06 season ...

barry33 · Guru

Trapper John wrote:

nietche wrote: wait a minute .... we're talking about the habs .... one of the most storied franchises in professional sports. One lucky win against an injury riddled line up should NOT be what habs fans reflect on as a high point for the team (we're not LEAF fans, right?). Nothing less than consistent, hard work and wins that come about from OUT PLAYING the opposition is what I'm looking for .... it's what I grew up on watching the habs, and it's what I expect from the habs today.-- Edited by nietche at 14:57, 2006-01-08 Nietche, I agree with you, and I think what should be savored is the way the Habs came on in the first period. Can't remember when I last saw that much determined checking and skating. But, half-way through the second period, what ever got them fired up seemed to wear off. They seemed content to cruise on the lead and in many cases the legs just weren't moving. Maybe the pros can sense when their opposition is simply not clicking and can afford to ease up, but I would rather see a consistent, sustained effort than a waltz. They got away with that last night, but if they drop back into that old habit there will be more Pittsburg-like losses ahead. Put another way... the game has three 20 minute periods. Whatever we have or lack in the Habs' talent pool, hard, determined skating can make up for a lot of shortcomings over the long haul. Playing a period-and-a-half of hockey won't work in this league.

Trapper- I have been trying to atch as much other teams as possible this year because I find it gives me a different and less biased view of the Habs. I am not sure if it has to do with the busy pace of the "New NHL" and the compacted schedule, but I really and truly do not see many teams playing full out for 60 minutes this year. I see alot of momentum swings and lead changes. Much of this has to do with the increased amount of PP's and at times can appear to be perceived as a lack of effort. As finely conditioned as these guys are, I think the faster pace of the game this year combined with the increased number of back to back games (due to the Olympic break) is forcing these guys to have to pace themselves a bit.

brooklynhabfan · Guru

barry33 wrote:

Trapper- I have been trying to atch as much other teams as possible this year because I find it gives me a different and less biased view of the Habs. I am not sure if it has to do with the busy pace of the "New NHL" and the compacted schedule, but I really and truly do not see many teams playing full out for 60 minutes this year. I see alot of momentum swings and lead changes. Much of this has to do with the increased amount of PP's and at times can appear to be perceived as a lack of effort. As finely conditioned as these guys are, I think the faster pace of the game this year combined with the increased number of back to back games (due to the Olympic break) is forcing these guys to have to pace themselves a bit.

Excellent post Barry! I think what you're going to see is similar to Premier league football players in England. They not only have a greuling league schedule, but compete in a cup competition that goes on all year and features teams from the equivalent of our minor leagues, and if they're lucky, in a europe-wide cup competition. Add to this several other cups that they might find themselves involved in, plus playing for the national team, and at the brutal pace of the top teams, well, you see where I'm going.

I've been wondering if simple exhaustion was part of the problem. If it is, it might be a while before we see the conditioning match the "new" style.

Or, they could just make a whole lot of sense and cut the schedule down to 60 games.

hockeyman · Senior Member

I don't understand all the moaning. The last time I looked a win was a win. And two points to boot. I don't care if it was the Sens AHL team. We still won. Get over it and move on.

brooklynhabfan · Guru

hockeyman wrote:

I don't understand all the moaning. The last time I looked a win was a win. And two points to boot. I don't care if it was the Sens AHL team. We still won. Get over it and move on.

Here! Here! well said, h-man