Ryder

norskipaul · Senior Member

Ryder

barry33 · Guru

You hit the nail on the head. Ryder is still young and he will make mistakes. As is alot of the rest of the team. Those crying for more ice time for Perez, Plekanecs and Murray bets be prepared for the downside when the "new coach" starts playing these guys. The downside being defensive mistakes due to inexperience. As long as everyone is prepared to endure those errors then go for it. But dont whine when it happens.

Nil d · Guru

norskipaul wrote:

I've noticed that, along with just about everyone else ,Michael Ryder has been getting a lot of stick recently. I have a couple comments and a question. First of all he's scored 15 goals, so he must be doing something right. Secondly he's still only in his second NHL season. Question: a couple of games ago Murray W. said the following after a Canadiens play had been broken up: "everyone knew where that puck was going, he (Ribeiro) always passes to Dagenais, never to Ryder". Has the anti-Ribeiro paranoia hit CJAD, or is there some truth to it? As I've only seen one game so far this season I have no way of forming an opinion.

Dagenais and Ribeiro played a year together in junior (Rouyn-Noranda Huskies), on the same line, and with success. There has been some "chemistry" that carries over to this day - except it doesn't seem to be there anymore. It is unconscionable that a centreman would not pass to a winger when the occasion called for it.

Habtastic · Guru

"unconscionable" means that Ribiero at some point got hit in the head too hard, right? :)

Habtastic

P.S. Or maybe not hard enough...

barry33 · Guru

I said this in another post but it is pertinent here too. I am left to wonder why all the fans who turned on Brisebois (and the french media) are giving so much slack to Ribs and Dagenais? I get the impression that Julien and Gainey have been putting these guys out here waiting for them to be booed by the fans and dissed by the media (so they can justify dumping them), yet the love in continues. The fact that you need to get the approval of the fans and media in Montreal to make a move points out what is fundamentally wrong in that city.

Nil d · Guru

Habtastic wrote:

"unconscionable" means that Ribiero at some point got hit in the head too hard, right? :) Habtastic P.S. Or maybe not hard enough...

We can only dream................

Maybe the word should be "unknockable" - no matter how poorly they play, they don't get knocked out of the lineup.

brooklynhabfan · Guru

barry33 wrote:

I said this in another post but it is pertinent here too. I am left to wonder why all the fans who turned on Brisebois (and the french media) are giving so much slack to Ribs and Dagenais? I get the impression that Julien and Gainey have been putting these guys out here waiting for them to be booed by the fans and dissed by the media (so they can justify dumping them), yet the love in continues. The fact that you need to get the approval of the fans and media in Montreal to make a move points out what is fundamentally wrong in that city.

The media need to get their collectve heads out of their a@%$s and around the concept that we don't live in the 70's, Bowman's not the coach, #10 isn't flying up the ice, and Dryden's not there to save the day. It's a squaemish mix of a dash of delusion, a snifter of racism (phonism?) and a fundamental misunderstanding of what makes a good atmosphere for teams to grow

I don't particularly care what language the player speaks at home, but if he can't speak hockey a couple of times a week, they don't deserve to be lionized, just because they were popped out in Quebec. I was, and it doesn't get me any favours

Habtastic · Guru

I am wondering if sending Dagenais down on to the farm (if he clears waivers... hehe) would be a wake-up call to Ribiero? It certainly couldn't hurt...

Habtastic

barry33 · Guru

Habtastic wrote:

I am wondering if sending Dagenais down on to the farm (if he clears waivers... hehe) would be a wake-up call to Ribiero? It certainly couldn't hurt... Habtastic

I think you will see a few changes like that..but first the team needs to get healthy

Jax · Newbie

barry33 wrote:

I said this in another post but it is pertinent here too. I am left to wonder why all the fans who turned on Brisebois (and the french media) are giving so much slack to Ribs and Dagenais? I get the impression that Julien and Gainey have been putting these guys out here waiting for them to be booed by the fans and dissed by the media (so they can justify dumping them), yet the love in continues. The fact that you need to get the approval of the fans and media in Montreal to make a move points out what is fundamentally wrong in that city.

Me thinks you should take it easy. Do not blame a city for the poor performance of their hockey team. Maybe the fans learned that "booing" a player in particular is not the answer. Because of us, Brisebois got traded and he's doing fine in Colorado. I think Brisebois would be a greater help to the Habs than a few D man that we have on the team.

And brooklynhabfan makes a good point. The media (and some fans) never came out of the 70's.

Habhead · Veteran Member

Jax wrote:

barry33 wrote: I said this in another post but it is pertinent here too. I am left to wonder why all the fans who turned on Brisebois (and the french media) are giving so much slack to Ribs and Dagenais? I get the impression that Julien and Gainey have been putting these guys out here waiting for them to be booed by the fans and dissed by the media (so they can justify dumping them), yet the love in continues. The fact that you need to get the approval of the fans and media in Montreal to make a move points out what is fundamentally wrong in that city. Me thinks you should take it easy. Do not blame a city for the poor performance of their hockey team. Maybe the fans learned that "booing" a player in particular is not the answer. Because of us, Brisebois got traded and he's doing fine in Colorado. I think Brisebois would be a greater help to the Habs than a few D man that we have on the team. And brooklynhabfan makes a good point. The media (and some fans) never came out of the 70's.

Sorry man, but this is one time where I 100% agree with barry33. It really does seem like the french media has way to much say in how this team is run. Brisebois was no where near as bad a hockey player as he was treated, by both the media and the fans.

This is not a knock on Julien as I feel he's doing his best under tough circumstances (mostly due to injuries), but it's like pulling teeth to get a unilingual english speaking person coach . . . shouldn't the organization be trying it's best to win, and that means getting the best players AND coaching staff available.

*Again, this is not meant as an attack on Julien, whom I feel is doing a good job now that it's fairly obvious he's under pressure to play certain "individuals" . . .