Poll #2: Ribs

brooklynhabfan · Guru

Poll #2: Ribs

beakermania · Senior Member

Liability - Pleks can do the same job offensively and be a better defensive presence. With Ribs' defence he needs to score 80pts to be an asset. He is terrible in his own end, and the only time i have ever seen him backcheck this year he put one in his own net, (vs the kings i believe).

-- Edited by beakermania at 12:27, 2005-12-15

JohnM · Guru

Liability, check out his +/- and the past playoffs.

heet_150 · Guru

I've been struggling with this for quite some time. I was a fan of his hotdog moves until the sprawling out on the ice incident. Since then I have been pretty negative on him and his abilities.

Since I continue to believe that CJ has not become suddenly stupid or incompetent and he puts Ribs on first line in K&K's absence and he plays Ribs for the lion's share of the pp minutes, also in K&K's absence, I vote asset.

I believe in the coach of this team.

Jonny G · Senior Member

Liability.

Power · Veteran Member

Liability

brooklynhabfan · Guru

So far 5-1 liability

keep the votes coming!

plouf · Guru

Liability. He's preventing Plekanec from being #2 centre. Plekanec looks pretty poised for a rookie. He's made some big mistakes but he's also mostly solid and works hard. He's surprisingly tough too, for a little guy, and has some skill. He's a bit like a poor man's up and coming Koivu.

That said, I have hope for the guy (ribeiro I mean), because we've seen he can be useful. I honestly would like to see him do well, but I just don't think it's going to happen. It's a pity he'd probably never accept being a 4th liner, because I think he and Dagenais would be a great 4th line combination, with a hustler like Begin or Bulis alongside them.

-- Edited by plouf at 16:35, 2005-12-15

Habtastic · Guru

He is the big L

Habtastic

habgirl · Guru

Liability - can we collectively say soft?

barry33 · Guru

LIABILITY- I believe in the coach too. But I can tell you that he does not use Ribs as much as he does because he has a choice. Pleks is not ready to assume all that responsibilty yet. Next time you and CJ go to your hair club for men meeting Bob I want you to get a trade done.

Nil d · Guru

brooklynhabfan wrote:

So far 5-1 liability keep the votes coming!

I'm going to go the opposite way and say a qualified "Asset". I say this because of his still untapped talent. If the guy bulks up and gets an attitude adjustment, he can be a star. I want him in a Habs uniform when that happens.

habgirl · Guru

Nil d wrote:

brooklynhabfan wrote: So far 5-1 liability keep the votes coming! I'm going to go the opposite way and say a qualified "Asset". I say this because of his still untapped talent. If the guy bulks up and gets an attitude adjustment, he can be a star. I want him in a Habs uniform when that happens.

Nil, you have hit the nail on the head. I also think he has talent but needs an attitude adjustment. Maybe this time Souray should go at him in practice? :)

Kendich · Veteran Member

Liability...but perhaps if we give him a little time to improve himself, and if he doesn't...gone. I'd much rather see Higgins or Pleks in his place, they always seem so much more determined and actually willing to work.

Pablo Honey · Veteran Member

Short-term, he's a liability.

Long-term, he could be a HUGE asset.

It all depends on the willingness of the staff, fans and media to wait it out. He can go either way because there are just too many intangibles. You can't teach vision, and it's clear the kid has it. But his attitude is horrible at best, he doesn't play D, is too small and too slow...

brooklynhabfan · Guru

Kendich wrote:

Liability...but perhaps if we give him a little time to improve himself, and if he doesn't...gone. I'd much rather see Higgins or Pleks in his place, they always seem so much more determined and actually willing to work.

What the HELL is that new avatar of yours? lol

Muller93 · Guru

LLLLLLiability. Come on Nil'd really! What "untapped" are you talking about??? PLEASE answer me that one! 66 points and a star in a broadway musical does not= =="untapped talent".

But since no other team would touch him so we are stuck with him...he is an ass et.

-- Edited by Muller93 at 18:26, 2005-12-15

Kendich · Veteran Member

brooklynhabfan wrote:

Kendich wrote: Liability...but perhaps if we give him a little time to improve himself, and if he doesn't...gone. I'd much rather see Higgins or Pleks in his place, they always seem so much more determined and actually willing to work. What the HELL is that new avatar of yours? lol

Glad you noticed....the hand is bleeding red, white, and blue

brooklynhabfan · Guru

Kendich wrote:

What the HELL is that new avatar of yours? lol

Glad you noticed....the hand is bleeding red, white, and blue

Is that a piece of ribs broken stick in there? Good thing the hand you need for those cold northern nights remains uninjured

hockeyman · Senior Member

I don't really know....but he should have taken the lockout year off to work on strength and skating. Did he not see the new NHL on the horizon? Or did he think he was too good?

Habhead · Veteran Member

Liability on and off the ice . . .

brooklynhabfan · Guru

I'm going to call this one as a fairly resounding Liabilty

on to the next question...

Nil d · Guru

Muller93 wrote:

LLLLLLiability. Come on Nil'd really! What "untapped" are you talking about??? PLEASE answer me that one! 66 points and a star in a broadway musical does not= =="untapped talent". But since no other team would touch him so we are stuck with him...he is an ass et.-- Edited by Muller93 at 18:26, 2005-12-15

You've lost me there, Muller. What's that about a Broadway musical? If 66 points was enough to lead the Habs in scoring last season, did he not out-perform every other team member in that category? I stand by my comments. If he bulks up so that he doesn't get pushed around as much, and adjusts his attitude - learn that there's no "I" in "Team" - he could be a star. Yes, these are big "ifs", but he has talent; I think everyone agrees with that.

(We can agree to disagree. Habgirl agrees with me; that's good enough for me any day! )

-- Edited by Nil d at 21:27, 2005-12-15

AB Habman · Guru

I still think asset!

The reason for this is he is the same size as his last more effective season in a tight checking more contact league. I don't think it's a size factor for him to be effective but rather his speed or lack of is more obvious. I think he is slowly adapting to this by still using his vision and play making ability. We need to be more patient and give the young guy a longer maturity period and I also think his skating will improve before his size as he merely has a smaller body habitus!