Sorry this is outside game thread

davidb · Guru

Sorry this is outside game thread

Nil d · Guru

davidb wrote:

You see the damn refs let everything go. Just like last game at montreal they call a penalty in last minute of regulation so Toronto can win in overtime Im sick of the damn refs they are not consistant The Markov goal should have counted but because Belfour fell down they had an excuse to call it back. The penalty on Rivet how was Rivet responsible for theto player falling down there was no intent there final score Refs and Toronto 4 Habs 3-- Edited by davidb at 21:31, 2005-11-26 -- Edited by davidb at 21:33, 2005-11-26

On the non-goal, it should have been either (1) a goal or (2) a penalty. How could you have neither? Makes no sense. As for Rivet's penalty, it was not only no intent, he actually hit the puck, so it should have been no call. The refs blew this game big time. I'm steaming!!!!!!!!!!!

JohnM · Guru

Refs won this game for the Leafs, not sure who can complain to the league about this. BG please send the tape to the league.

Also, Bob Cole and Harry Neil suck as commentators. After the Habs tie it up, Cole states that "they do it to us again". What kind of BS is that!!!

Habhead · Veteran Member

From what I saw, it appeared Rivet didn't touch the puck. So, I believe that technically it was a penalty, but the Refs let a whole bunch of crap by the Leafs go, they should have continued the trend . . .

Habhead · Veteran Member

JohnM wrote:

Refs won this game for the Leafs, not sure who can complain to the league about this. BG please send the tape to the league. Also, Bob Cole and Harry Neil suck as commentators. After the Habs tie it up, Cole states that "they do it to us again". What kind of BS is that!!!

Un-freakin' believable isn't it? The CBC would let the Leafs anouncers run wild whenever Toronto plays MTL. That's why I absolutely LOVED the pasting Ottawa put on the Laffs (8-0) right in TO earlier . . . just GREAT!

davidb · Guru

I listened to them two announcers to. I thought it was just me they must be some happy

AB Habman · Guru

Nil, it sure looked like Rivet missed the puck therefore that is a penalty as it tripped up the forward! But besides that call there was too many missed calls. Markov didn't dive into the crease on his own when the puck went in! That should of been a goal as Markov had no intention of going in feet first when the puck went off him into the net. The goal was dislodged after that as well as the whistle. That would of nagated the penalty but they didn't even call one like you stated!

-- Edited by AB Habman at 23:02, 2005-11-26

Nil d · Guru

AB Habman wrote:

Nil, it sure looked like Rivet missed the puck therefore that is a penalty as it tripped up the forward! But besides that call there was too many missed calls. Markov didn't dive into the crease on his own when the puck went in! That should of been a goal as Markov had no intention of going in feet first when the puck went off him into the net. The goal was dislodged after that as well as the whistle. That would of nagated the penalty but they didn't even call one like you stated! -- Edited by AB Habman at 23:02, 2005-11-26

I was going by the RDS announcers, who were stating with certainty that Rivet touched the puck. Frankly, I didn't see it myself. But the point we are both making is valid - other things were not called, especially in the third period; why start calling stuff with 2 seconds left in a tie game?

ray · Senior Member

I agree with the remark of the non-goal call if there was interference with the goalie, why wasn't there a penalty. I have nothing but complete disgust with the calls made last night. I was at the game and was at the end where the disallowed goal was. I had a perfect view, and it blows my mind away how that was not a goal.

Jay1982 · Guru

Nil d wrote:

As for Rivet's penalty, it was not only no intent, he actually hit the puck, so it should have been no call. The refs blew this game big time. I'm steaming!!!!!!!!!!!

I saw the replay about 50 times, he didn't even come close to touching the puck, it was a penalty and a bad play by Rivet.

barry33 · Guru

I am not arguing that the call was legitimate on Rivet, however it needs to be looked at within the context of how the WHOLE game was called. Had the officials called the game as the 2 did against Atlanta last week I would have fully supported the call on Rivet (as would have Rivet and Julien and Markov). However, when calls far worse than that were let go trhoughout the game (on both sides) one would expect that knowing there is only 4 seconds left in regulation in a tie game that for the sake of consistency, that call should have been let go.

Truly, this is where I feel for the players in this league when they say they do not know what is ok and what is not ok. From night to night and game to game, there has been zero consistency. The players need to knwo where they stand. And I am fraid that is not the case right now.

Nil d · Guru

Jay1982 wrote:

Nil d wrote: As for Rivet's penalty, it was not only no intent, he actually hit the puck, so it should have been no call. The refs blew this game big time. I'm steaming!!!!!!!!!!! I saw the replay about 50 times, he didn't even come close to touching the puck, it was a penalty and a bad play by Rivet.

Fair enough - but please allow me to continue steaming! That game disgusted me more than any I have seen this year. The refs blew it big time.

plouf · Guru

davidb wrote:

You see the damn refs let everything go. Just like last game at montreal they call a penalty in last minute of regulation so Toronto can win in overtime Im sick of the damn refs they are not consistant The Markov goal should have counted but because Belfour fell down they had an excuse to call it back. The penalty on Rivet how was Rivet responsible for theto player falling down there was no intent there final score Refs and Toronto 4 Habs 3-- Edited by davidb at 21:31, 2005-11-26 -- Edited by davidb at 21:33, 2005-11-26

ok, I'm no Grammarman (come back, all is forgiven!), but the total lack of punctuation is making your posts hard to read. Otherwise, I'm with you all the way!

mdmrules · Member

You guys should see the replay of the Rivet penalty I saw last night on the later game on HNIC. What I saw was a d-man diving to poke a puck in the corner and a leaf forward crashing into him. The fact is that it doesn't matter if he touched the puck or not because NEITHER of them had control of it. The both made a move at the same time only Rivet was stretched out and at a lower elevation. They collided and Antropov(i think it was Antropov) skated into his body. Needless to say I am a habs fan but I know what I saw and I have beene watching hockey long enough to know you don't call a marginal penalty in the last 2 seconds of a tie game. I want doubt that the refs are actully leafs fans in disguise but they make it really hard to do that. Anyways try and find that angle if you can... it was at ice level and the corner to Theos right. Can't mistake it... NO PENALTY.

Johab · Guru

Speaking of announcers. My friends grandpa says it best. I was at his house a couple weeks ago and his grandpa was watching the game in french but the guy doesnt understand a word in french except for ET LE BUT! I asked him why he doesnt watch the game in english because it was playing on CBC. He answered simply this. " Id rather watch the game in french and have my own assessments on what is going on and not understand what the commentator is saying than to listen to those bone head announcers on CBC bash my team with some of the worst anaylisis ever. And before i could ask he told me not to even mention Cherry. I nodded with a huge smile on my face. CUz in this community, for an english person to take to a french commentator over an english or a french ANYTHING over an engish it really says ALOT. Smart man he is.

plouf · Guru

Plus you get to learn hockey french!

I'm almost bilingual now, and I pretty much slept through french class in school. Reason I started picking up french (and then got into it and started to enjoy it and learn it)? I was forced to by CBC, when they pretty much dropped the Habs from their English language HNIC.

davidb · Guru

The other night the canadiens were called 14 times for intractions. That game was ridiculous because if you sneezed these refs called something.Last night ,you either call it or you dont. I am a Habs fan so I may be one sided, but the goal that was called back. Goalie interference but no penalty called. We have no way to complain about the refs. I hope GMs around the league can do something about it. Why did these refs let the hooks, trips, and holding go on on behalf of the leafs and not call anything???? I will not post about it again because we have heard enough

-- Edited by davidb at 18:01, 2005-11-27

-- Edited by davidb at 18:02, 2005-11-27

barry33 · Guru

davidb wrote:

The other night the canadiens were called 14 times for intractions. That game was ridiculous because if you sneezed these refs called something.Last night ,you either call it or you dont. I am a Habs fan so I may be one sided, but the goal that was called back. Goalie interference but no penalty called. We have no way to complain about the refs. I hope GMs around the league can do something about it. Why did these refs let the hooks, trips, and holding go on on behalf of the leafs and not call anything???? I will not post about it again because we have heard enough-- Edited by davidb at 18:01, 2005-11-27 -- Edited by davidb at 18:02, 2005-11-27

To quote my favorite big mouth Jeremy Roenick (ya I love the guy because he tells it like it is) WAKE THE F**K UP!!!!!!!!!