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8-7-2 : 18 Points (7th in the Eastern Conference)



12-3-2 : 26 Points (1st in the Eastern Conference)









Projected goalies for this game are:


# 20 Ed Belfour (7-5-2), 3.58 GAA

# 60 Jose Theodore (10-3-2), 2.83 GAA








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Zednik - Koivu - Kovalev
Higgins - Ribeiro - Ryder
Begin - Bonk - Sundstrom
Dandenault - Plekanec - Perezhogin




Souray - Komisarek
Markov - Rivet
Bouillon - Streit


Jose Theodore









Meetings This Year:

Oct. 8th, 2005:5 4

Oct. 15th, 2005:3 2





















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-- Edited by SpiderManNL at 07:00, 2005-11-12

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Here we go, a real game!  Let's hope Begin keeps his Talbot down when he runs over Tucker tonight.  I've converted, boys.  Clean hit!


So, I pumped for this game.  This is a very important game.  And I think that after taking PIT for granted, Montreal will be ready for a 55-60 minute game tonight.  Koivu and Kovalev should contribute (I guess that would include Zednick too.)  Bonk and Ryder will continue their strong play from 2 nights ago.  4-1 Habs.  Solid defence and great tending from Theo is the key to this win.  Shots about even.



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Please Habs win this game, I wanted to win all 8 games this year against the buds, but will settle for 7 out of 8.  Was at the leafs game last night and I'm a little worried about tonights game, they'll come out flying, Belfour was weak last night and hopefully will be tonight. Please, please win tonight. I'm worried about this one tonight, as these games are the most important too me especially living in Leafs country. Should I be worried?

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Nice pics, spidey!

Tests abound tonight. Can the magic glue hold together?

Everyone's going to be looking at the habs to see if they're for real. Loads of pressure on them: Turning the corner into the fat, long midsection of the season, coming off three pretty lucky points, some injuries, oldest rival on a Saturday Night, a goalie who seems to be finding his groove, but still might have a couple of Weeble wobbles left before he does. Forwards whose genius flashes and then disappears.

These guys need a solid, fat lead, early on. They need to hold it, and win by more than two. Otherwise they'll start to believe it's been a fluke so far. Confidence is critical.

My prediction? Who knows? I get a sneaky suspicion Markov and Rivet will be the keys tonight. Clean passing, keeping the penalties down and a lack of showboating wouldn't hurt either. Not every goal has to make SportsCenter. (Those fancy wraparounds don't seem to be working so well, Mr. K)

Either way, can't wait.

What would Peter Puck have to say?



It oughta be a doozie!

-- Edited by brooklynhabfan at 13:59, 2005-11-12

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You know Pat Quinn is going to have his boys whipped to a frenzy after the spanking they took last night in Buffalo. My hope is that he's got them so scared of him that they forget how to play aggressively. The keys tonight are going to be staying out of the box, having all three (or four) lines skate hard, good movement in the offensive zone on power plays, and Theo. I'm looking for him to keep the Habs in the game and I wouldn't be surprised to see the Habs in another shootout before the night's over. Hopefully this one will end better for our boys!

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Everyone's going to be looking at the habs to see if they're for real. Loads of pressure on them: Turning the corner into the fat, long midsection of the season, coming off three pretty lucky points, some injuries, oldest rival on a Saturday Night, a goalie who seems to be finding his groove, but still might have a couple of Weeble wobbles left before he does. Forwards whose genius flashes and then disappears. These guys need a solid, fat lead, early on. They need to hold it, and win by more than two. Otherwise they'll start to believe it's been a fluke so far. Confidence is critical. My prediction? Who knows? I get a sneaky suspicion Markov and Rivet will be the keys tonight. Clean passing, keeping the penalties down and a lack of showboating wouldn't hurt either. Not every goal has to make SportsCenter. (Those fancy wraparounds don't seem to be working so well, Mr. K) Either way, can't wait. What would Peter Puck have to say? It oughta be a doozie!


You took the words right out of my mouth!


This is a big game. It would be awesome to have the Habs win at home during Hockey Night in Canada. I believe this is one of the first games that I will be able to watch in full - very excited! It would be nice to have a good lead and take this game with more then 1 goal!



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Nice pics, spidey! Tests abound tonight. Can the magic glue hold together? Everyone's going to be looking at the habs to see if they're for real. Loads of pressure on them: Turning the corner into the fat, long midsection of the season, coming off three pretty lucky points, some injuries, oldest rival on a Saturday Night, a goalie who seems to be finding his groove, but still might have a couple of Weeble wobbles left before he does. Forwards whose genius flashes and then disappears. These guys need a solid, fat lead, early on. They need to hold it, and win by more than two. Otherwise they'll start to believe it's been a fluke so far. Confidence is critical. My prediction? Who knows? I get a sneaky suspicion Markov and Rivet will be the keys tonight. Clean passing, keeping the penalties down and a lack of showboating wouldn't hurt either. Not every goal has to make SportsCenter. (Those fancy wraparounds don't seem to be working so well, Mr. K) Either way, can't wait. What would Peter Puck have to say? It oughta be a doozie!


 


Good post. Totally agree about Markov and Rivet. Markov's quietly been maybe the best player for the Habs. But twice lately he's been beaten early in a game before he got in the flow. Let's hope he comes out ready this time.


No question, the boys will be up for it. Let's see where Theo's head is at tonight. Big test for him.



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My prediction is it will be a tight game 4-3 not including an empty netter. Habs goals to, Koivu, Ryder, Higgins, and Zednick. Leafs goals to Steen, Sundin, and Antropov. THe Habs will finally play a 60 minute game but Belfour will be able to rebound and put out a  solid showing in a losing effort. the refs will let this game go, although there will be some questinable Habs penelties and one too many men on the ice penelty.

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Habs go on the rebound in Toronto


 


(Sports Network) - The Montreal Canadiens go on the rebound tonight when they welcome the Toronto Maple Leafs to the Bell Centre.


Montreal had a five-game win streak snapped in Thursday's 3-2 shootout loss to host Pittsburgh. Pens phenom Sidney Crosby was the only skater to score in the decisive shootout.

Craig Rivet and Chris Higgins scored goals and Jose Theodore stopped 21 of 23 shots for the Canadiens, who played in a shootout for the first time.

Montreal's Andrei Markov carries a five-game points streak into tonight's game. He has one goal and six assists during the run.

Defenceman Sheldon Souray hopes to play after an MRI on his foot showed no major damage. He was hit in the heel by a Ric Jackman shot earlier in the week.

The Canadiens will host Florida on Tuesday.





Toronto, meanwhile, has lost three of its first five games to begin this month. On Friday the Leafs dropped a 5-2 contest in Buffalo, as Tim Connolly scored two goals and Martin Biron made 27 saves to lead the Sabres. Buffalo scored three unanswered third-period goals to break a 2-2 tie.

Alexander Steen and Eric Lindros provided goals for Toronto, and Ed Belfour stopped 25-of-29 shots in net.

Lindros, who tallied eight goals in the first 10 games of the season, ended a six-game drought without finding the net.

The Maple Leafs, who are 2-4-1 on the road, will host the NY Rangers on Tuesday

Montreal and Toronto have split two meetings this season, with each team winning in the other's building.



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Game Preview: Canadiens vs. Maple Leafs


 


MONTREAL - If the first two meetings of the season between the Canadiens and Maple Leafs are any indication, Saturday night’s clash of these Original Six rivals is destined to come down to the wire. That could be a blessing for the Canadiens, who have specialized in late-game heroics this season.

Montreal continues to lead the NHL with a 10-3 mark in one-goal games while the Maple Leafs are only 4-4-2 in nail-biters. Tonight marks their third meeting of 2005-06, as teams league-wide facing their division foes eight times over the season. So far the NHL’s rivalry-based schedule has proven to be tailor-made for this longtime, inter-provincial grudge match. Both teams have skated away with one-goal victories in each other’s building. The Canadiens were 5-4 winners at the Air Canada Centre on Oct. 8 whle the Maple Leafs posted 3-2 victory at the Bell Centre on Oct. 15.

Claude Julien's crew (12-3-2) will put their three-game home winning streak on the line against the Leafs (8-7-2), who dropped a 5-2 decision in Buffalo on Friday night. Montreal is 6-3-0 at home while the Leafs are 2-4-1 on the road so far this season.

Power surge: The penalty box is the last place the Canadiens want to end up tonight with the Maple Leafs and their second-ranked power-play paying a visit. At 23.8 per cent, trailing only the Red Wings, Toronto is even more lethal on the road with a league-leading 30.6 per cent success rate away from the Air Canada Centre. Montreal's power-play is seventh at 20.5 per cent, while head-to-head so far this season the Leafs are 3-for-10 against the Canadiens over their two previous meetings and the Canadiens' power-play is 2-for-17 against Toronto.

NHL says sorry to Begin: There will be no further disciplinary action taken against Steve Begin by the league after Kerry Fraser assessed him a major for elbowing, a game misconduct and an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for his hit on Maxime Talbot in the third period against Pittsburgh Thursday night.

“We heard from the league that the hit was in fact clean as the replay clearly showed,” said Julien of the hit that was deemed a five-minue major for elbowing. “But referees don’t have the benefit of seeing all the replays that we have access to. The game moves pretty fast out there and mistakes are going to happen.”

Unwelcome Mats: Mats Sundin, who missed Toronto’s first two showdowns with the Canadiens this season with an eye injury, has never been a popular guy in Montreal dating back to his early NHL days with the Quebec Nordiques. He certainly hasn’t helped his cause with the way he's burned the Canadiens in recent years. Three of the Maple Leafs' last seven wins over Montreal prior to this season have been sealed by a Sundin game-winning goal. Thankfully, all three of the Swede's game-winners have come at the ACC.

More x-rays for Souray: Sheldon Souray, who on Thursday left the game after blocking a shot with the back of his skate, didn’t practice on Friday and his status remains up in the air for tonight’s battle with the Leafs.

“We tried to get it x-rayed in Pittsburgh, but there was too much swelling to really see anything,” said Souray, who had an MRI done on Friday in Montreal that revealed no fracture but the swelling may still keep No. 44 out of the lineup tonight. “I didn't think it was anything serious and I hope to be able to face the Leafs, but it’s too soon to tell. The puck just got me in the back of heel in a soft part of my left foot around my Achilles tendon.”

Jan Bulis remains sidelined with a left shoulder injury, while Radek Bonk left practice early on Friday but is still expected to face Toronto. Pierre Dagenais’ flu that kept him out of Thursday’s loss to the Penguins has cleared up and he is expected to play tonight.

Mr. Shootout: Jose Theodore may have come out on the losing end of his first career shootout on Thursday in Pittsburgh, but early signs point to No. 60 being right at home in these one-on-one showdowns. Having stopped Ziggy Palffy and Mario Lemieux before being beaten up high by Sidney Crosby, Theodore’s combined record including the preseason exhibition shootouts is an impressive 12-of-15. Besides Crosby, the only shooters to have slipped one past Theo are Tampa Bay’s Pavel Kubina and the Bruins’ Glen Murray. Some of Theodore’s most notable preseason victims included the likes of Vincent Lecavalier, Dany Heatley, Jason Spezza, Martin Havlat and Eric Lindros.

Retired Jersey Night: Dickie Moore and Yvan Cournoyer will see their No. 12 raised to the Bell Centre rafters prior to tonight's contest. The pre-game ceremony honoring the Canadiens' legends gets underway at 6:30pm.

Manny Almela is a writer for canadiens.com


Captain Saku Koivu leads the Canadiens with 13 assists and 18 points



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Mr. Shootout: Jose Theodore may have come out on the losing end of his first career shootout on Thursday in Pittsburgh, but early signs point to No. 60 being right at home in these one-on-one showdowns. Having stopped Ziggy Palffy and Mario Lemieux before being beaten up high by Sidney Crosby, Theodore’s combined record including the preseason exhibition shootouts is an impressive 12-of-15. Besides Crosby, the only shooters to have slipped one past Theo are Tampa Bay’s Pavel Kubina and the Bruins’ Glen Murray. Some of Theodore’s most notable preseason victims included the likes of Vincent Lecavalier, Dany Heatley, Jason Spezza, Martin Havlat and Eric Lindros.Retired Jersey Night: Dickie Moore and Yvan Cournoyer will see their No. 12 raised to the Bell Centre rafters prior to tonight's contest. The pre-game ceremony honoring the Canadiens' legends gets underway at 6:30pm.Manny Almela is a writer for canadiens.com Captain Saku Koivu leads the Canadiens with 13 assists and 18 points

that article is wrong, theo didn't stop Palfy in the shootout it was Recchi.

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that article is wrong, theo didn't stop Palfy in the shootout it was Recchi.


You're a sharp one, superhab!  Are you in editing?   Or detective work?


 



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I recently made a post during the Tampa game that I wanted us to beat Lecavalier and we did. Then I wanted us to beat Mario, we lost. Now more than ever I want us to beat Lindros. Is the only injusry Bulis. Ivanis is back  Correct?????  Souray ok????

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The one thing I will look for above all tonite, win or lose, will be effort. I know that CJ was not kind after the Pens loss and this will be a huge test as to whether he is getting through to the players or not. They skated very hard yesterday. Now if we come out and fire 50 shots at the Beagle and they win 2-1 there is nothing w ecan do about that. There will be nights where they run into a hot goalie (like T Bone the other night). Nothing you can do about that. But what I want to see tonite is effort.


The other thing that bugs me about tonite is lack of a physical presence. I would have liked to see Van Der Meer or Ivancik up from Hamilton for the game playing on the 4th line with Begin. Laffs have Belak, Domi, and the lightweight Tucker and they will be hitting.



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superhab wrote: that article is wrong, theo didn't stop Palfy in the shootout it was Recchi. You're a sharp one, superhab!  Are you in editing?   Or detective work?  

Im just a guy with to much time on my hands :)

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Bulis and Souray out tonight. Dags in.


Zed Koivu Kovy


Ryd Ribs Hig


Sun Bonk Begin


Dags Pleks Perez



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Alot of pre-game ceremonies so far, hope this doesn't slow down the Habs start.

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Why oh why is Belfour always at his best against us?

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No score at the end of 20 minutes..........Habs are out shooting the Leafs 18-4.

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Great first period. Very discilpined would have been nice PP goal we could have had 4-5 goals. Souiray out anyone know how long???

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Why oh why is Belfour always at his best against us?

That's ok, this is how we wanted Les Boys to play tonight. Keep it up and we'll get one. Domination so far.

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Great first period. Very discilpined would have been nice PP goal we could have had 4-5 goals. Souiray out anyone know how long???

He's gone until the swelling goes down. Not a serious injury but probably will go either Tuesday or Friday.

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Alot of pre-game ceremonies so far, hope this doesn't slow down the Habs start.


It was good to see my new buddy Yvan being celebrated.  My only regret is that MRS. Cournoyer wasn't with him when I saw him on Thursday!


 



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Well Eddie kept TO in the game and that looks like it has taken the air out of the Habs skates.


Kovalev can be very frustrating to watch when he's not on his game like tonight. Bonk has been useless so far tonight. When will he be useful to this team? When?


Looks like Eddie might be getting tired. 2-1 Leafs.


Refs have officially taken over this game.



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Leafs lead 3-2 after 2

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Well we should have had 3-2 edge with begins miss. TO comes right back and takes monemtum. I am sorry but we will be hard pressed to get a point out of this game. TO unlike the Habs has the size and depth to take the third periode. Sorry but I can just see it coming.

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Holy s##t!  I've seen open nets missed in my day, but that one by Begin took the cake!  The puck was bouncing/rolling a bit, so I guess it didn't go where it was intended, but what a chance missed - and then a few seconds later TO scores agaian, and instead of 3-2 Habs it's 3-2 Laffs.  What a turning point - so far.  Habs down by one after two - look out world!!!!!!!!


 



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Even though we scored 2, that was a brutal 2nd period for the Habs. We dominate the first, then give up PP/SH/ES goals. The Eagle kept them in the first and the Habs are letting this one slip away.


One more period to go and the Habs are on the verge of going 1-2 against the Leafs this season. Please don't let that happen. They should be tired after playing last night, c'mon Habs, pull it out.



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Nild I just do not see a come back. TO appears to have too much talent. My dream would be a quick tying goal ghet the momentum going and pot a couple more for an insurance goal but I do not feel very confident. Markov was undressed like a rented mule

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 End of second observations( 10 of them):


1: Montreal will win this game. Just a feeling


2: any one else think Markov looked stupid on that 3rd goal?


3: any one else annoyed with the pro TO CBC coverage. Its disgusting really


4: once again Belfour is outshinning Theo.


5: Ribero stinks yet again


6: Bonk is sound defensively which is how he is being used. But a goal every now and again would be nice!


7: Ribero stinks yet again.


8. Refs allowing TO to compete this game( Not usually one to balst the refs but there has been a good 3-4 games this year that I have to question).


9. Kovalev is my pick to tie it up.


10. I really think Bulis is more valuable than we all think. We suffer without him. VERY UNDERRATED. Also Ribero is overrated



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