Muller93 wrote:

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Traveling Hab wrote:

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First off, let's clear up this misconception that Theo only had one good year. It is strictly not true.

By the one good year we are talking about the 2001-2002 when he had one of the best seasons of any goalie in recent memory up to that point. That season was absolutely brilliant in so many ways. It was not just a "good season".

The year before he had a .909 save percentage and that was a "good" season. He was an above average starter that year.

The year after his Vezina season, he had a .908 save percentage, but suffered from inconsistancy behind a horrid defense. He was still an above average goalie, but in contrast to his Vezina year, and especially with a slow start, he looked awful.

The year after that he worked his ass off and was again one of the top goalies in the league. a .919 save percentage is very difficult to get. He also had a pretty damn good season as a back-up in 1999-2000 when he also posted a .919 save percentage.

During the lockout he was awesome in Sweden for Djurgarden.

It was only after the lockout that he proved he does not belong in the new NHL, or at least not the same way as before. He was a reaction goalie based on speed, not a technical goalie. He was fast enough for the old NHL, but not fast enough for the new one. He lives and dies on his speed, so when the play got a bit faster, he suffered proportionally.

Yes, the Habs organisation is classy, but we the fans don't seem to be. To boo a guy out of his hometown is not justifiable by saying that "we were just trying to get under his skin." Next we'll be signing Avery to say racist things, or throwing bananas on the ice to get under black players' skins. I hope we never sink to those lows, but what we did to Jose and Brisebois was uncalled for, and if we want to call ourselves classy, we can't do that kind of ****.

They are both Quebecois, and yeah, they play for another team, but they should never have to feel unwelcome at home.

Maybe I am over the top, but I feel pretty strongly about this.

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I think you are missing the point.

I think Theo got booed partly because he made some pretty lame comments about Montreal fans having no life...What does he expect with a comment like that?

only keeping in touch with Ribeiro( which says alot about a guys character given the likes of Koivu. Souray, Rivet, etc are in that locker room)...

habscsi...I like your style...you should post more often.

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Mulsey- you are simply making excuses for bad behaviour. I submit that if Theo had not made any negative comments he still would have been booed and taunted. Speaking of which Johab, "Taunting is different than booing"?!? No. You are still voicing your displeasure and mocking the guy. From where I saw, his team did not show up for the 3rd period and left him hung out to dry. Period. Neither goalie shone (13 goals is NOT a defensive gem by any means). At any rate, as I stated, I do not agree with the reaction but I totally respect the fans' right to do it.

Whatever. I was one of the 21000 boooing both of those idiots for the entire game and guess what, I dont care what you or Andrew Brunette thinks. It has nothing to do with class. Theo crapped out so hard that we couldnt even trade him for an upgrade aside from cap space. Breezer's actions on his way out were so ridiculous, remember the calling in sick for a week and then the St Sauveur sightings? Those 2 are not professionals, they treated their jobs like it was some romp in the park.

The Habs are Montreal's team, the fans hold the keys to the kingdom, no matter who owns the team. If Breezer and Theo get booed in their home town, they deserve it. Habs fans dont boo local boys who play well, we boo local boys who think that they are owed the world.

GO HABS GO

If I get booed each time I mishandle a performance review (with an employee) or drop the ball with a client, I wouldn't like it much and would not be too productive an employee.  HOWEVER, I don't make millions of USD either.  So booing and taunting pro-atheletes is okay by me IF it's done at the arena.  Outside, between games, forget it.  Anything short of throwing stuff on the ice is fine.

Specifically with Theo - BOOOOO.  Sure, he was the best goalie we had since Patty Cakes but he let us all down.  And he still get $5.5USD so BOOOOO.  Yes, he has feeling and I respect that it must be hard to have millions of people hate you but at least millions of people know who he is.  It comes with the territory.

As fans, we don't have the right to boo.  That is a freedom that is given to all Canadians.  It isn't like making a racist or sexist remark.  Dude let us down and for that he gets booed.  Class has nothing to do with it.  How fun would the NHL be if we applauded every attempt at greatness and forgot the failures?  BOOOOOOOring!

doodie wrote:

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Johab wrote:

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Ok wait, are we talking about the BOOING or the TAUNTING both are WAAAAY different. Booing is simply stating your dislikes allowed. Taunting is trying to get under the persons skin and throw them off their game. I did not once boo theo. I did however taunt him in hopes to get under his skin. As it is normal in the game ( Sammy Salo after the olympics ) Fans will try to get to a goalie, taunting is definately reasonable in my mind! And if i remember correctly Theo was taunted much more than booed last night. He was booed at the beginning of the game not the classiest...then Taunted after every goal. which to me is PERFECTLY FINE!

 

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What kind of logic is that? ha ha If i'm THEO how do i determine if someone is BOOING,-- are they booing, or is  that BOOING their booing, taunting  BOOING.OR is that BOOING just that--BOOING No wonder he let in so many goals he was confused over which was a BOOING or which was  TAUNTING and couldn't forus on the game to funny

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There are always people in life who no matter what you say will never quite get the REAL picture. Doodie you are definately one of them. You are CONSTANTLY trying to correct me or go against everything i say. Im not sure what the purpose of your post was, frankly i dont care. Perhaps its your style in sense of humor and you are tyyping sarcastically and it is just coming off rude, but really, im getting tired of having serious points im trying to make turned into a bunch of jokes and nonsense

Booing- an exclamation of contempt or disapproval: to show disapproval of by booing.

Taunting- To reproach in a mocking, insulting, or contemptuous manner. 
              To drive or incite (a person) by taunting.

They ARE 2 different things. Theo was a victim of BOTH....BUT 1 is expressing a form of  dislike ( booing ) and the other is plain mocking ( THEEEEEE-OOOO ) Booing a player will not throw him off his game as much as chanting his name in the manner that was Saturday night. At leats in my eyes, and im sure others will agree. But to say both are the same would not make sense. I am not for the booing part, as i have clearly said, numerous times, and i for 1 did not boo. I did however chant along with the Theo Theo. As i would say against any other goalie in the league if i thought it would throw him off his game. Im sorry but what is wrong with chanting a players name in that way. It is not like montreal fans are the only ones who do it. I guess because Theo was loved so much by many and did bring a couple good years to the team ( i do not deny that 1 bit ) its a touchy subject. plain and simple

 

Ok,

Difference of definitions. To me taunting is a general term that includes name calling, booing, jeering, chanting, and all that up to but not includin. I esclude booing an individual event (like a bad call) since if it is isolated, I don't consider it taunting, but I can't find the official definition in Oxford, so I am happy to work with yours.

But since I have already said pretty much all I have to say on the subject, it won't do make much of a difference now, but it might help clarify some of my previous comments.