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Ando


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The Sens are not half the team they were last season but their avoidance of lazy-arse penalties enabled them to hang-in all night! 


Meanwhile the Habs basically looked tentative and half-hearted most of the night (which is truly worrying when you consider the setting)!


The first Ottawa goal was easily the softest goal And-o has ever seen scored on Huet (this guy has slllooooowwww starter written all over him)!


The best play of the evening was Higgins shorty (what a shot)!


Samsonov's goal was about the only thing positive And-o has seen outta him as a Hab PERIOD


Komisarek is going to be a STAR!


...and, was And-o the only one begging Guy Carbonneau to give the Bonk line an extra shift in O.T.???  They were really...really solid!



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What amazes me is how they keep going back to Koivu on the shootout. The captain is not a breakaway scorer. I am not sure what his stats are in Shootouts but I am positive they must be dismal.

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barry33 wrote:

The captain is not a breakaway scorer.


Exactamundo!


Carbo might better start-off shoot-outs using Ryder...followed by Kovy (instruct both to actually hit the net with a hard shot)...and then have Souray skate in and blast one from 20 feet (who would want to face that)!!!



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barry33 wrote:

What amazes me is how they keep going back to Koivu on the shootout. The captain is not a breakaway scorer. I am not sure what his stats are in Shootouts but I am positive they must be dismal.


What do you mean "going back"? That's only the second time in two years Koivu had a go in the shootout.

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plouf wrote:


barry33 wrote:


What amazes me is how they keep going back to Koivu on the shootout. The captain is not a breakaway scorer. I am not sure what his stats are in Shootouts but I am positive they must be dismal.




What do you mean "going back"? That's only the second time in two years Koivu had a go in the shootout.


Tough to argue with that.  I'd throw Latendress, Perezhogin and Kovy/Ryder at 'em.


Anyway, the game last night was pretty boring overall except in the 3rd when Montreal had a little preassure in the offensive zone.  Other than that, it really was flat to me.  I didn't really think we played to undisciplined a game except that Ottawa was more diciplined than we.



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I hope we took notice how the Sens forechecked and caused turnover after turnover.  We were hemmed in our own end continuously.  Two men on the puck.  All night we had one guy forecheck and two hanging back.  The Sens aren't as offensively gifted as they once were.  We have to pressure more.

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Ando wrote:


barry33 wrote:

The captain is not a breakaway scorer.


Exactamundo!


Carbo might better start-off shoot-outs using Ryder...followed by Kovy (instruct both to actually hit the net with a hard shot)...and then have Souray skate in and blast one from 20 feet (who would want to face that)!!!



I would have Souray shoot first, let him blast it AT the goalie, possibly the goalie mask and watch him struggle with the next two shooters.

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plouf wrote:

What do you mean "going back"? That's only the second time in two years Koivu had a go in the shootout.


Not to nit pick here but..... it's the second time in 2 games (this year) he's been it the shoot out...


1) vs ~ Leafs (he lost the puck) 


2) vs ~ Sens (tried to deke)


Not sure he's our best choice.... but what do I know



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I stand corrected MC. I forgot he had already gone once this year.

Anyway, he was 0-2 since the beginning of last season before last night. Hardly conclusive evidence that he's incapable of scoring a shootout goal. So far nobody on this team has convinced as a shootout scorer, and Koivu's been playing well, so why not give him a turn?

Now if I was in charge, he wouldn't be on my list next time. I'd give Higgins another shot though. Seems like his stickhandling would help. Same goes for Perez, Samsonov, Kovalev.

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i agree and-o , they didnt take many penalties and got called for less. we only had 1 pp and we should have had 3 . kovy and sammy where hauled down with no call . our pens. were deserved by nhl standards but if your gonna let a trip go you have to let some other thing go for the other team .and saks cant score on a shootout . hes a steup man , and doesnt have a shot to force a goalie to consider 1 .

-- Edited by macneil at 16:30, 2006-10-15

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barry33 wrote:


What amazes me is how they keep going back to Koivu on the shootout. The captain is not a breakaway scorer. I am not sure what his stats are in Shootouts but I am positive they must be dismal.




What do you mean "going back"? That's only the second time in two years Koivu had a go in the shootout.

Actually CJ used him 3 times last year in the exhibition season when every game was a shootout to test it. He was 0 for 3. My point is that he is a great passer but not a gifted goal scorere one on one.

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Ah yes, exhibition games.

Where Perez was close to 100% on shootouts if I recall.
Where Latendresse dominated.
Where we lost a bunch in a row this year and people were saying we were doomed.

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In any case, it's a sign of things going pretty well for Carbonneau that the biggest criticism we can come up with is his shootout selection.

Well ok, there's the blown lead in the first game, and LAt's role (debatable point for me) but overall he's doing quite nicely. I am a huge Carbonneau fan, but I admit I was sort of worried about the rookie coach situation. Thing is, Carbs was always a smart and team-dedicated player first, talented player second. Definitely coach material.

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OK since Barry brought up the shoot out thingI just want to ask one thing if Huet finishes the OT period can Abby do the shootout or is that against the rules!


Cause before we start pointing at who is gonna score we need to keep em out, i mean when the whole league is averaging a 25% scoring rate on these and our goalie is gonna let in 2 of first 3 every night I dont care if we send out jager, Forsberg and Sakic we aint gonna win very many!!!JMO but the Goalie is supposed to have the edge here. Thats why i always hated the penalty shot, guy gets a surprise breakaway in the normal flow of a game the goalie has way less time to react than on a penalty shot where he can probably go get the scouting report on the bench before the refs get it going, id rather a 5 on 3 on flagrent things like that!!



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plouf wrote:


barry33 wrote:


What amazes me is how they keep going back to Koivu on the shootout. The captain is not a breakaway scorer. I am not sure what his stats are in Shootouts but I am positive they must be dismal.




What do you mean "going back"? That's only the second time in two years Koivu had a go in the shootout.

gonna have to correct you on that plouf. YEs he has only had a couple shootout attemps BUT he has been listen to take a shot many times, its just normally shootouts are decided in the 1st 2 shots from each team, a 3rd round normally isnt required, and guess where saku is normally penciled in?

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Right, but I mean where he actually makes the attempt of course.

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