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So isn't Montreal considered a speedy team, so therefore shouldn't they be the one on the powerplay in most cases.....see, these small forwards, (almost the whole team) get roughed up in the corner or laid out cleanly, so does that frustrate them enough to retaliate and get a penalty.  I thought the opposition should be the ones hanging on and hooking the hell out of our boys, thats what i'm expecting anyways.  Anyone have anything?



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Good question.
I wonder if it isn't because we have a few too many guys who take long shifts and get tired?

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where you from caper , im from glace bay on the little rock , where you from

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I was born and raised in Bras d'or, i moved to halifax when i was 20 for school, and now i'm living in Calgary, AB.

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plouf wrote:


Good question.
I wonder if it isn't because we have a few too many guys who take long shifts and get tired?



Plouf- it is all about moving your feet. Whether you are at the Pee Wee level or the NHL, you need to keep your feet moving and cause the opposition to haul you down. The other night in the Buffalo game, Lindy Ruff was miked, and you kept hearing him holler "Move your feet". As much as this is a speed game now, there is still an awful lot of cycling done down too low. But in order to be effective with that you need to be strong and keep your feet moving, thus causing your opponent to put the grab on you. So that means you need two things. 1) Effort-many times if a player is not "moving his feet" it means that he is being lazy. 2) Strength- that is why a Power Forward or big Center is so valuable. They get olong the boards or cycling the puck down low and you cannot stop them without grabbing them.

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So i guess the next question is. Why are we not moving our feet enough?
Admittedly we don't have a lot of big guys, but we should be at least moving our feet, no? This is one part of the game I expect to see Carbonneau, Jarvis and Muller (there's a guy who couldn't skate great but kept his feet moving) drill into our players' heads.

[although Carbs' skating was so great, it always looked effortless. Also, he was sort of an exception sometimes, because one of his patented tricks was to look like he was coasting then use his great lateral skating and reflexes to pick off a pass or steal the puck. But then he almost never got caught truly flat-footed and the effort was always there when it was what was needed.]

For me (after first 2 games), guys moving their feet well:
the whole first line (even Ryder!), Pleks, Perezhogin, Johnson, Bonk (!?!), Dandenault

Guys who aren't:
Kovalev (but he does have the strength part), Begin (only by his high standards - he seems slightly less there at the moment), Murray and Downey and Latendresse, Souray (what is up with this guy right now?)

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After watching a few games now.  It's seems they play at the speed of the opposition.  Against Buffalo, holy **** speed.  Against Ottawa, at home, plodding.


It's time to take the play to the opposition and dictate the pace, a fast pace.



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After watching a few games now.  It's seems they play at the speed of the opposition.  Against Buffalo, holy **** speed.  Against Ottawa, at home, plodding.


It's time to take the play to the opposition and dictate the pace, a fast pace.




Sarge- I have to agree with bout you and Plouf 100%! I think that teh habs dowbfall the past couple of years has been playing down to the competition. To answer Plouf's question as to why they are not moving their feet it is a combination of personell and coaching. Seeing as their has been a coaching change and some players still do not get it, it may be time to change some players. I had an old boss tell me one time when we were discussing trying to get my staff to buy into a new business model we were using and some were balking at doing it  "If you are unable to change your people, maybe you need to "change" your people.

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