I check this message board quite often. I'm dissapointed to see that there is no news from habs camp. Doesn't anyone live in Montreal to give us a prespective on the camp atmosphere? I would like to know more about the rookies fighting for spots, scrimagages, line combos, Samsonov and Johnsons thoughts about coming to montreal ....Carbo's views etc.
To me training camp is one of the most exciting times of the hockey season....something that I have been looking forward to for a while. This message board is boaring!!!!!
In what city other than Montreal do hundreds and hundreds of people show up at 10 am on Saturday to watch hockey players practice? Not many and certainly not in Phoenix.
Tomas Plekanec and Mike Johnson skated out a few minutes earlier than the rest of the team to hear an ovation from the fans above. Mike Johnson had a grin on his face like he couldn’t believe it.
The place was packed with people of all ages to watch the Canadiens scrimmage and then display their shootout skills one after the other.
Notables
Saku Koivu - Koivu did not look out of place at all. In fact he might have been the best guy out there. The play was fast and fairly rough and he didn’t flinch whatsoever. This is great news as earlier in the week it was a more grim outlook. I’d say Koivu will definitely be starting the season.
Guillaume Latendresse - Sorry but Gui looked out of place and too slow with the big boys. Garth Murray also nailed him and sent him to the locker room wincing. He seemed to gain some confidence after a lucky rebound goal but looked really immature pumping his fist like it was a game 7 overtime winner. His maturity and confidence are definitely not there and there’s no way he’ll be a Canadien any time soon.
Mikhail Grabovski - There were a lot of eyes on Grabovski and while he looked to have great hands and speed he is surprisingly small. Smaller than Mike Ribeiro. Skinny and short by NHL standards. It’ll take some time for him to learn the North American game and hopefully put on some size.
Kyle Chipchura was not that noticeable but both Kostitsyn brothers were.
Some of the grinders stood out. Garth Murray and Aaron Downey were giving it 100% the whole time. They seem to know that to keep their jobs they’ll have to play that way at all times and they were. Murray in particular.
O’Byrne and Jancevski were noticeable as big physical defensemen but were definitely not up to speed with the NHL game. There was nothing to suggest that Cote won’t be the last Defenseman pencilled in the lineup come game time.
Regulars were regular. Michael Ryder is sporting a visor and looked a little strange but ripped a snapshot top shelf during the shootout. Kovalev, Higgins, Souray, Komisarek and Rivet all looked sharp. Sergei Samsonov however ,might take some time to gel with linemates Riberio and Kovalev which is expected.
The atmosphere was great and the Canadiens look to be strong heading into the pre-season games.
Only a few problems in scrimmage. But Habs captain says the real challenge will come during exhibition games PAT HICKEY The Gazette Saturday, September 16, 2006 CREDIT: JOHN MAHONEY, THE GAZETTE Captain K all smiles: Canadiens centre Saku Koivu shares a laugh with defencemen Craig Rivet (right) and Mathieu Dandenault after Koivu scored during a shootout after a scrimmage yesterday.
Any questions about Saku Koivu's eyesight were answered midway through the opening half of a scrimmage yesterday as the Canadiens opened their training camp at Sportsplexe 4-Glaces in Pierrefonds.
Koivu had the puck near the right faceoff circle and he looked to his left - the side where he experiences a blind spot - and spotted linemate Chris Higgins. The captain fired a pass which Higgins turned into a goal against David Aebischer.
"He looked great," Higgins said when asked for an appraisal of Koivu's play. "He showed lots of speed and I think he was the best overall player on the ice."
Koivu, who is coming back after suffering a serious injury to his left eye during the playoffs in April, described his performance as "the first step," but it was a giant one. He admitted to being nervous before he stepped on the ice, but he was pleased with his performance.
"There were only a few times when I had trouble and I lost (sight of) the puck at my feet," said Koivu, whose peripheral
vision is limited as a result of the injury. "I have three more days here and the next step is to play some exhibition games and see how I react when guys on the other team are trying to hit me."
The peripheral vision is only one part of the problems that began when Carolina's Justin Williams caught Koivu with a high stick in Game 3 of the Canadiens-Carolina series. He is also bothered by a cataract in the left eye, but he has been wearing a contact lens to correct the condition.
"My vision is a lot clearer with the lens," Koivu said. "It feels uncomfortable, but I've only had it for three days now and I'm sure that I'll get used to it."
Koivu has always worn a visor, but Williams's stick went under the protective shield. Koivu is wearing a larger visor and will experiment next week with a
European model that covers more of the face and also curves inward at the bottom.
"I'll try the one I have now and the new one and I'll wear the one that feels more comfortable," Koivu said.
The captain isn't the only one experimenting with visors. Linemate Michael Ryder was sporting one for the first time yesterday and said Koivu's injury factored into his decision to wear one.
"It's something I had been thinking about and Saku's injury made me think a little harder," Ryder said. "I haven't decided whether I'll wear it in the regular season, but I'll give it a try and see how it goes."
Ryder also is coming off an injury. He was bothered most of last season by a pinched nerve in his neck.
"There was no pain in my neck; it was all in my left arm," Ryder said. "I had no strength in the arm."
Ryder devoted two months to rest and therapy in his native Newfoundland, with the occasional trip to Montreal to visit with Canadiens trainer Graham Rynbend.
While Ryder said he was currently working on building the strength in his left arm, he otherwise arrived at camp in good shape. He lost 12 pounds over the summer, the result of "eating better" and reported at a trim 192 pounds.
Yesterday's opening scrimmage ended in a 3-3 tie, followed by a shootout that saw every player take a crack at a penalty shot before rookie defenceman Jon Gleed scored on the final shot to give Koivu's white team the edge, 11-10.
Higgins, Jonathan Ferland and Aaron Downey scored for the Whites, while Mike Ribeiro, Alex Kovalev and Mike Johnson countered for the Reds.
Carbonneau establishes opening-day lines on Day 1PAT HICKEY The Gazette Saturday, September 16, 2006
Canadiens coach Guy Carbonneau is taking a no-nonsense approach to his first training camp. While some coaches like to experiment and juggle lineups, Carbonneau let his players know where they stand by assembling the lines he think will be in place on opening night.
"Training camp is so short and we want guys to get used to playing together," Carbonneau said.
That meant Saku Koivu was between Chris Higgins and Michael Ryder, while Mike Ribeiro centred Alex Kovalev and newcomer Sergei Samsonov. Another line had Radek Bonk with Steve Begin and Aaron Downey, while Tomas Plekanec was teamed with Alexander Perezhogin and Mike Johnson. Garth Murray played with Belarusians Andrei Kostitsyn and Mikhail Grabovski, while Guillaume Latendresse, the surprise of last year's camp, played with Kyle Chipchura and Matthew D'Agostini on a line which featured three guys who were at the Canadiens' rookie camp.
"We have a pretty good idea of who's going to be here when we open the season, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a place for the younger players," Carbonneau said. "The message we're sending them is that they have to work hard and prove that they belong on this team. I remember coming in here in 1982 and stealing a job. If one of the young guys here plays well, we'll find a spot for him,"
Carbonneau said he tried to match veteran lines against each other, but it didn't always work.
"One team had five lines and one team had four and we had a situation where the Latendresse-Chipchura line was matched against the Ribeiro line and they did a good job," Carbonneau said.
Mystery man back in Penguins' bidding: Research in Motion chairperson Jim Balsillie, the man behind the BlackBerry, has emerged as the front-runner in the bidding for the Pittsburgh Penguins. The latest reports indicate that Balsillie is the mystery man who came close to buying the Penguins in the spring. That deal reportedly fell through because Balsillie was planning to move the team to Hamilton.
Tennis math doesn't add up: Canada has been drawn to play Israel in Fed Cup World Group II action next April and, for some reason, the Canadians are seeded ahead of the Israelis.
Canada is currently No. 11 in the Fed Cup rankings - up from 15 - while the Israelis have jumped from No. 19 to No. 15. But it would be a mistake to consider Canada the favourite if both countries use their best players. Israel's No. 1 player, Shahar Peer, is No. 22 on the WTA Tour computer, while Anna Smashnova is No. 54. The top-ranked Canadians are Stephanie Dubois of Laval (No. 122) and Blainville's Aleksandra Wozniak (No. 126).
CBC lands World Cup rights: The CBC, which is currently battling to retain its share of the Canadian NHL rights, has shown that it's still a player in the sports TV business by securing the rights to the 2010 and 2014 World Cup tournaments, as well as next year's FIFA under-20 championships.
The only thing that bothers me about this deal is the announcement that CBC will be using all eight of its TV and radio platforms. I hope that doesn't mean viewers will have to subscribe to Country Canada, as they did in CBC's disastrous venture into curling.
Dubin dies in Florida: Former Montrealer Brahm Dubin died in Florida this week at the age of 56. Dubin managed a number of golf courses in Palm Beach County, as well as Delray Beach Tennis Centre, which was home to men's and women's tour events, as well as Davis Cup and Fed Cup ties. Dubin was married to Chris Evert's younger sister, Jeanne.
Anyone else see the highlights from yesterday, as in the FLAGRANT elbow thrown by Murray on Latendresse? Guy left the ice bleeding and woozy. Also, Grabovski got rubbed out (didn't look intentional, well, the hit was, not the forcing him into the glass partition) into where the glass starts at the blue line, and he left a mess as well.
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According to the newspaper the injury suffered by Latendress was as a result of a stick hit in the mouth from Murray. Latendresse stated that he believed it was accidental. Murray apologized to him .
Also the Koivu line was the best line on the ice yesterday. The Bonk,Downey and Begin line had it over the Riberov,Samsonov and Kovalev line. The only goalie in camp not to be scored on (other than in shootout) has been Halek.
I fail to see where Carbo is establishing any doubt amongst the veterans or competition by coming in with the same lines he had last year? Sticks the 3 rookies on a 5th line. Makes zero sense to me but hopefully it works.
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Great to hear about Koivu, and since I think we don't have enough of the Begin-Downey-Murray types, I'm glad to hear that Downey and Murray both looked sharp. I'd like to see both there (assuming we keep 13 forwards) and the only young guys that seem like they can compete at forward are Kostitsyn and Chipchura at this point. But they're both still young - they'd be the youngest in the lineup, so there's no rush right now.
Great to hear about Koivu, and since I think we don't have enough of the Begin-Downey-Murray types, I'm glad to hear that Downey and Murray both looked sharp. I'd like to see both there (assuming we keep 13 forwards) and the only young guys that seem like they can compete at forward are Kostitsyn and Chipchura at this point. But they're both still young - they'd be the youngest in the lineup, so there's no rush right now.
I still do not agree with stating your lines on the eve of training camp. It sends the message to the kids that they do not stand a chance of making the team so why try? And it tells the veterans that their spot is assured so go ahead and coast. It baffles me.
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barry33 wrote: I still do not agree with stating your lines on the eve of training camp. It sends the message to the kids that they do not stand a chance of making the team so why try? And it tells the veterans that their spot is assured so go ahead and coast. It baffles me.
I think this outlines Carbonneau's philosophy:
"We have a pretty good idea of who's going to be here when we open the season, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a place for the younger players," Carbonneau said. "The message we're sending them is that they have to work hard and prove that they belong on this team. I remember coming in here in 1982 and stealing a job. If one of the young guys here plays well, we'll find a spot for him,"
If one or two of these youngsters have fire in their belly, they will want to prove the experts wrong and steal a spot from one of the veterans. I don't mind that approach.
(But then again, I'm no coach either.............)
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