Funny thing

Muller93 · Guru

Funny thing

The Kahuna · Guru

Careful Muller93, calling out the big guns on this board will get you in the doghouse right next to me. Should I clean up the guest room?

Diehardhabsfan · Veteran Member

For once I would like to hear what they did right instead of pointing out every lil mistake they make.

We won be happy!!!

larry · Member

Nothing changes here.... if the Habs do poorly they are **** on and if they do well they are **** on... I think I will enjoy the ride away from this cynical doom and gloom mentality... good luck to the positive posters.... I am sure the Nay-sayers will be happy sooner or later when the competition may become too dificult for our beloved Habs.

I went to see "The Ropcket" last night it was a very good movie... maybe more of the poster here should see it to obtain the proper mind-set for appreciating what it means to support a TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Habs... take it to the limit...

macneil · Guru

no larry you got it all wrong when the lose they are sh@t on but when they win they are only piss@d on . but hey hope they get piss@d on 15 more times .

JohnM · Guru

Nice to see you back reddog.

Frank the Critic · Member

Hey Muller93 i completely agree with you. There are some people who just do not understand hockey. I played many many years of hockey and understand the dynamics of playing good. Koivu was a +2 yesterday. Although he was a bit shanky and slow he played a very well game. He a better night than i dunno Sorray and Markov. Numbers aren't everything, it is there contribution on and off tonight that leaves an impact on your team. Not being a member of the Habs you wouldn't know his contributions as well as his palying skills for that particular. And-o you seem to understand hockey, well... somewhat, can you tell me wut do u want koivu to do in order to be effective??

JohnM · Guru

When Higgins was interviewed after the game by CBC, one of his main points was how Saku has made it much easier for him to play well. I guess this kinda shows what most people on this board understand.

Common sense boys, don't hate the player, hate the other team.

Johab · Guru

I think i can answer that one for you And-o.

And-o would like Saku to grow 4-5 more inches throw on about 30-40 more pounds of muscle, and get grittier and more dominant. More like Thornton is a good example. Really guys, i dont think and-o HATES saku. Im sure he likes him as a player, but what and-o is saying, is montreal isnt going to be a better TEAM until we get a hulking centerman that can control a game and shows up every game. ( Thornton in San Jose ) Saku is good, i love the guy, but he cannot dominate every game. We do not have a player apart from Kovalev who can control a game on his own, and even at that, Kovy doesnt unless he WANTS to. Which REALLY pisses me off sometimes.

AB and And-o are just as entitled to their anti-saku-ism ( as you all claim it is ) as you all are to your pro-saku-ism. And really, it isnt And-o or AB who keep bringing this saku topic up everytime. It is other members who bring up the "what about saku" when he isnt mentioned. From now on....im going to bring up Harry the Towel guy. This guy doesnt get enough credit, he ALWAYS give the players their towels and keeps them clean and dry. Without him, the players sticks would be sliding out of their hands and flying all over the place, the visors would be all foggy and the players would be skating into everything. Without him, we'd never win a game!

MC Girl · Guru

Muller93 wrote:

Habs win 6-1 in the first game of the fisrt round of the playoffs in the others teams barn...and AB and And-O can't handle someone heaping some praise for a darn good technical game from Koivu... From And-o..." he only had one assist" From AB..." he needs to do more than clog up the nuetral zone" These two guys slay me. I swear the habs could win the cup and they would still come on here and roast anyone who dares to mention how good Koivu is. Hilarious. Guys...it was 6-1. Proof that these guys just have a "thing" against Koivu. Anyone care to guess what that is?

I mean no disrespect here but can you handle anyone saying anything about Koivu? If it isn't 100% praise for the man, you go off your rocker & go out of your way to call out those who don't agree with you on another thread.

I've read all this crap earlier today in the thread "if anyone cared to notice" (or whatever it was titled) This thread was started for a juvenile reason, just to try & get others to read your opinions on And-o & AB because they had differing opinions from yours. Come On!!!! You knew the other posters on here wouldn't be looking on the "if anyone" thread once they had read all the Koivu brainwashing from earlier... so you start a brand knew thread to what?......get even??? Let people know that you were right & they are wrong??? All I know is there are probably more posters that feel the same way as And & AB then the same way you feel.

I'll admit that he played a good game last night... NOT GREAT & NOT BRILLIANT.. but good.

He is our Captain, Our Leader & Our Highest Paid Player..... clogging up the "neutral zone"??? That is a job of a role player... not the job of our "first line" player. He needs to take an assertive role & get scoring (or at least try to)

He needs to show us why he's worth over 5 million.

Johab · Guru

is he seriously being paid over 5 million?

i thought i was being paid around 4.75....

JohnM · Guru

Hate to correct you McGirl, especially because you look so good in your Huet jersey but Saku will be our highest paid player next year. That is if we don't sign anyone else in the offseason to a higher ticket. Currently he is earning 3.2 million and will be earning 4.75 million next year.

-- Edited by JohnM at 18:08, 2006-04-23

MC Girl · Guru

JohnM wrote:

Hate to correct you McGirl, especially because you look so good in your Huet jersey but Saku will be our highest paid player next year. That is if we don't sign anyone else in the offseason to a higher ticket. Currently he is earning 3.2 million.

First off..... Thanks for the flattery

Regardless of his exact dollar figure (I knew I should've looked it up LOL), or if it's this year or next.... It doesn't change anything that I said in my post. He has not been playing like the money they are paying.

Look at the Theo demise... he was paid a ton.... stopped producing.... got shipped off.

Koivu.... stopped producing.... got resigned.... being paid more.... and what????

He's being praised like he was the Hero of our 1st playoff game. It's ok to love Koivu... I don't hate him... I don't dislike him.... In fact, I am a fan of his & I don't care how small he is I just think he should be playing a different kind of game.

He played well last game, but to say he was brilliant is an overstatement. I feel brilliance was Huet & I won't be calling out the people who disagree with me in another thread.

MC Girl · Guru

larry wrote:

Nothing changes here.... if the Habs do poorly they are **** on and if they do well they are **** on... I think I will enjoy the ride away from this cynical doom and gloom mentality... good luck to the positive posters.... I am sure the Nay-sayers will be happy sooner or later when the competition may become too dificult for our beloved Habs. I went to see "The Ropcket" last night it was a very good movie... maybe more of the poster here should see it to obtain the proper mind-set for appreciating what it means to support a TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Habs... take it to the limit...

Just curious Larry...... Is it in entirely in English or are there subtitles? I've been dying to see it.

JohnM · Guru

MC Girl wrote:

He has not been playing like the money they are paying. Look at the Theo demise... he was paid a ton.... stopped producing.... got shipped off. Koivu.... stopped producing.... got resigned.... being paid more.... and what???? He's being praised like he was the Hero of our 1st playoff game. It's ok to love Koivu... I don't hate him... I don't dislike him.... In fact, I am a fan of his & I don't care how small he is I just think he should be playing a different kind of game. He played well last game, but to say he was brilliant is an overstatement. I feel brilliance was Huet & I won't be calling out the people who disagree with me in another thread.

I've said this before, he had better PPG this year than his career average, so not sure about stopped producing.

Koivu brings alot more to the game than point production, I believe that's what Muller is trying to say.

I do understand what you are saying about playing a different game but that's not what was needed last night. What was needed last night is exactly what he did, clogging the neutral zone, putting the puck in deep and solid two way play.

Huet did play great last night, I like seeing him dispell what all the critics had to say before the series started. Let's hope it continues.

Muller93 · Guru

MC Girl wrote:

I mean no disrespect here but can you handle anyone saying anything about Koivu? If it isn't 100% praise for the man, you go off your rocker & go out of your way to call out those who don't agree with you on another thread. I've read all this crap earlier today in the thread "if anyone cared to notice" (or whatever it was titled) This thread was started for a juvenile reason, just to try & get others to read your opinions on And-o & AB because they had differing opinions from yours. Come On!!!! You knew the other posters on here wouldn't be looking on the "if anyone" thread once they had read all the Koivu brainwashing from earlier... so you start a brand knew thread to what?......get even??? Let people know that you were right & they are wrong??? All I know is there are probably more posters that feel the same way as And & AB then the same way you feel. I'll admit that he played a good game last night... NOT GREAT & NOT BRILLIANT.. but good. He is our Captain, Our Leader & Our Highest Paid Player..... clogging up the "neutral zone"??? That is a job of a role player... not the job of our "first line" player. He needs to take an assertive role & get scoring (or at least try to) He needs to show us why he's worth over 5 million.

Well Mc Girl...For one, my original post is below...we won 6-1 and all I did was talk about who I was impressed with. Whoops I started off with Koivu because I really thought he had an awsome game. No one even posted anything negative about Koivu...so why are you attacking me?? The post was not in response to anything at all.

Have a look...

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Saku played a brilliantly technical game. Smart, gritty, clever plays all night. No huge make your head turn plays a la' Kovalev...but it takes performances like that to win games. Great game.

However...

Huet kept the boys in this one and Gerber was perhaps the worst netminder I have seen in a playoff performance in a while so...

And...Souray looked god awful on the first goal and an at least 4-5 times throughout the night.

And... Hab and AV's fan...Komi played a real solid defensive game last night...might have been the most solid d-man last night...

And...I stated previously that one of the "rookies" would have to step up and be that unexpected key guy...Thank you Plek!!! Great game all around from him.

AND...Thank god we went with Sunny. I alsways liked him despite all the bad talk on here...he plays a technically sound game...key in the playoffs. Also Kudos to BONK and Kovalev.

Thought Markov had a weak game by his standards.

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I don't know McGirl. everyone on here talks about how everyone is negative. That "new" post should have evoked some positive discussion... It was a positive post really. Instead it brought out the two naysayers...all because the topic started with Koivu????

Can you explain to me why you figured I was at fault? I always like your posts so I just want to know. To me if you break it all down, I only posted a mostly positive thread and got attacked for it. I merely defended my position eh?

-- Edited by Muller93 at 18:39, 2006-04-23

The Kahuna · Guru

Damn, I think I'm going to go reread War and Peace, MUCH less drama than reading this board. People, you're losing it, I have never seen a group of fans more miserable after a 6-1 playoff win. The bunch of you have enough pent up hostility to keep a team of Psycitrists busy for years.

-- Edited by The Kahuna at 18:45, 2006-04-23

Muller93 · Guru

The Kahuna wrote:

Damn, I think I'm going to go reread War and Peace, MUCH less drama than reading this board. People, you're losing it, I have never seen a group of fans more miserable after a 6-1 playoff win. The bunch of you have enough pent up hostility to keep a team of Psycitrist busy for years. -- Edited by The Kahuna at 18:43, 2006-04-23

I...for the life of me, can't figure out how a post with seven positive comments about the 6-1 win...turned into all this negative banter.

JohnM · Guru

Muller wrote:

I...for the life of me, can't figure out how a post with seven positive comments about the 6-1 win...turned into all this negative banter.

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Seems to be a lot of pent up frustration from certain posters. Could it be lack of ...? Just kidding Andy, you are the man!

-- Edited by JohnM at 18:58, 2006-04-23

AB Habman · Guru

Really Muller...you're actually surprised that you got a few posters who didn't think Saks was as brilliant as you say????

You didn't exagurate to antaganize????

You didn't leave a thread with a silly exagurated comment to rationalize your post under a safer thread????

If you would of just merely said, Saks played well in the nuetral zone along with Sunny, I would of bought into it. Because it was Saks...it was brilliant while Sunny was just technically sound

The thing is, MC girl is not only pretty in her jersey, but more importantly, she knows her Habs! She deserves the respect of not turning her statement into a finicky pulling at straws kind of argument. Who cares if it's exactly 4.75 or 5 mil. Her points are valid and to the fact. She is being objective.

MC Girl · Guru

Muller93 wrote:

Well Mc Girl...For one, my original post is below...we won 6-1 and all I did was talk about who I was impressed with. Whoops I started off with Koivu because I really thought he had an awsome game. No one even posted anything negative about Koivu...so why are you attacking me?? The post was not in response to anything at all. Have a look... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saku played a brilliantly technical game. Smart, gritty, clever plays all night. No huge make your head turn plays a la' Kovalev...but it takes performances like that to win games. Great game. However... Huet kept the boys in this one and Gerber was perhaps the worst netminder I have seen in a playoff performance in a while so... And...Souray looked god awful on the first goal and an at least 4-5 times throughout the night. And... Hab and AV's fan...Komi played a real solid defensive game last night...might have been the most solid d-man last night... And...I stated previously that one of the "rookies" would have to step up and be that unexpected key guy...Thank you Plek!!! Great game all around from him. AND...Thank god we went with Sunny. I alsways liked him despite all the bad talk on here...he plays a technically sound game...key in the playoffs. Also Kudos to BONK and Kovalev. Thought Markov had a weak game by his standards. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I don't know McGirl. everyone on here talks about how everyone is negative. That "new" post should have evoked some positive discussion... It was a positive post really. Instead it brought out the two naysayers...all because the topic started with Koivu???? Can you explain to me why you figured I was at fault? I always like your posts so I just want to know. To me if you break it all down, I only posted a mostly positive thread and got attacked for it. I merely defended my position eh?-- Edited by Muller93 at 18:39, 2006-04-23

Muller.... It's cool to be a huge fan of the guy.... you sir, are not a Koivu bandwagon jumper & I appreciate that. You'll stick by him through thick & thin... very admirable

Your starting post was great.... (other than the brilliance part LOL) but as others disagreed with you, you became some what insulting.

~What a garbage post. Hey And-o, do you watch the games? Good lord man, anyone who truly understands the game could see that the game played by Koivu was positionally brilliant.
I watched the game all over this morning...perhaps you should as well And-o.

~Uh-huh. If this was a court case...And-o would be wearing the proverbial "black glove"...on his head.

~Oh well And-o. I'm sure you will spin yourself around and around until you either go off the deep end...or join all the hab fans in a big cheer for the awsome Koivu...

Then after this.... AB Habman wrote:

Muller, why would you hang your neck out like that on the Saks compliments when he played so average? He was easily shown up last night by Plecs and Bonk. Actually, it's a toss up between him and Ribs on who was more effective. Your opening thread had some good points until that silly brilliant comment totally ruined it. Every poster on this board has to know, he needs to play better and merely clogging up the nuetral zone isn't enough from him. He is paid to produce firstly while playing solid both ways. He isn't paid to be our Carb. type player. Bonk is and did his job last night. AB was going to be polite on the Saks thing and hope he steps it up. I wasn't going to comment on his play at all until I read your silly post. He needs to step it up because Canes will.....nuff said.

~Great post AB. You can't win an argument without valid points.

How is that glove fitting AB...a little tight?

I found your way of dealing with their comments slightly insulting. You started a new thread to re-attack their views they had posted on the other thread. That is my "issue". It's not with you personally or your views... it's with why you started this thread. You took care of the disagreeing in the other one, you didn't have to call them out on here, in a brand new thread.

I try to read everyone's threads & I agree with you most of the time but today, I didn't. This thread was unnecessary. Again, I mean no disrespect. I enjoy your regular posts/threads, even when I disagree with them. Your first post today was well written & truthful (for the most part) ..... just the way you carried over the "great debate" to a new thread... seems like school yard bullying.... let's try to rally up everyone to attack these people who disagree with me. hmmmmm I know you're better than that.

The Kahuna · Guru

For the record, I'm not rallying around anyone or taking anyones side. I think everyone in this thread is

ing nuts! How you can get over a knock down drag out brawl after a 6-1 victory, arguing about who played better than who is completely laughable! Too many posters here that complain out of habbit whether there's anything wrong or not. It's really boring.

MC Girl · Guru

The Kahuna wrote:

For the record, I'm not rallying around anyone or taking anyones side. I think everyone in this thread is ing nuts! How you can get over a knock down drag out brawl after a 6-1 victory, arguing about who played better than who is completely laughable! Too many posters here that complain out of habbit whether there's anything wrong or not. It's really boring.

I couldn't agree more Kahuna It's really boring to hear the same fights from the same people about the same things all the time.

I can't believe I'm continuously adding to this mean spirited thread.

WE WON DANG IT!!!! WOO HOO.... WE HAVE GOOD PLAYERS, QUITE A FEW ACTUALLY.... WE ARE DOING WELL.... THE LEAFS ARE GOLFIN'....

& AGAIN

WOO HOO.... WE WON HUGE LAST NIGHT

Muller93 · Guru

AB Habman wrote:

Really Muller...you're actually surprised that you got a few posters who didn't think Saks was as brilliant as you say???? You didn't exagurate to antaganize???? You didn't leave a thread with a silly exagurated comment to rationalize your post under a safer thread???? If you would of just merely said, Saks played well in the nuetral zone along with Sunny, I would of bought into it. Because it was Saks...it was brilliant while Sunny was just technically sound The thing is, MC girl is not only pretty in her jersey, but more importantly, she knows her Habs! She deserves the respect of not turning her statement into a finicky pulling at straws kind of argument. Who cares if it's exactly 4.75 or 5 mil. Her points are valid and to the fact. She is being objective.

Well AB. I don't mind if posters disagree. That is expected and encouraged I hope. But I said Koivu had a brilliant game and I meant it. It was not said to "exagurate" as you put it....it is just fact.

And don't make it appear as though I did not specifically applaud Sunny. I did. You... of all people should have posted a response saying how you agreed with my Sunny comments( you talked about how you hoped Sunny played instead of Downey...I agreed with you). Funny how despite our agreements...you choose to go nutso over a positive Koivu comment. What do you have to say for yourself???

Don't you find it peculiar that I mentioned that Souray looked bad at times last night. Meanwhile in a later post...And-o mentions the incredible game he had. Why not call me in on a debate over that huh? Just because I happen to think Koivu played a superb game...without getting a bunch of points...you two act like a couple of hornets who just got their nest attacked. WHY???

Watch that game again and tell me that was not a brilliantly technical game by Koivu. If you can have a reasonable discussion about it...then I will listen. But I stated why I thought it was so brilliant( closed down one side of the rink allowing the "D" to anticipate and cheat to one side). You have yet to say anything remotely hockey related.

Hey, if you can't take an actual analysis of the game, then don't post a hasty response. It would be one thing if I had said something negative and you wanted to defend that player..but the fact is, you can't stand it when Koivu...and thus, the habs do well.

As for McGirl...I know she is very knowledgable...I've read the posts. Which is why I am sure once she sees the "original" post and the crazy backlash...she will see that it was not "I" with the problem.

But she is all class so I figure she has had enough of this juvinile topic and will leave it at that...the habs won 6-1

Ando · Guru

Johab wrote:

...And really, it isnt And-o or AB who keep bringing this saku topic up everytime. It is other members who bring up the "what about saku" when he isnt mentioned.

Tahhhh Dahhhhhh!!!

No worries gang!!! The two resident members (and co-founders of the 'Saku Mouse Club') are just burning up that he wasn't playing 'lead fiddle' last night in the first game of 'the real season' (as they put it).

I'm 100% certain that they will be here provoking another fight when Saku scores.

...until then, they will make this a personal attack on AB and And-o with their childish (although very humerous) antics!

MC Girl · Guru

Muller93 wrote:

As for McGirl...I know she is very knowledgable...I've read the posts. Which is why I am sure once she sees the "original" post and the crazy backlash...she will see that it was not "I" with the problem. But she is all class so I figure she has had enough of this juvinile topic and will leave it at that...the habs won 6-1

I did read the first post.... this morning, I just thought it was strange to rehash it in a new thread....

but good for you babe Glad you see it too

6-1 BABY WOO HOO!!!!

JohnM · Guru

Ando wrote:

Tahhhh Dahhhhhh!!! No worries gang!!! The two resident members (and co-founders of the 'Saku Mouse Club') are just burning up that he wasn't playing 'lead fiddle' last night in the first game of 'the real season' (as they put it). I'm 100% certain that they will be here provoking another fight when Saku scores. ...until then, they will make this a personal attack on AB and And-o with their childish (although very humerous) antics!

No fighting required. The Habs won, that's it, that's all. It doesn't matter who came up the biggest yesterday. The fact is the team won. That's right, the team including Sak, including Ribs, including Souray, etc.... That's the point that you don't get, Koivu is wearing the CH which is supposedly the team you are cheering for. Correct me if I am wrong...

The Kahuna · Guru

Ando wrote:

I'm 100% certain that they will be here provoking another fight when Saku scores.
...until then, they will make this a personal attack on AB and And-o with their childish (although very humerous) antics!

riiingnnggg, riiingnnggg, Mr. Ando, it's the pot on line two for you, something about calling the kettle black

Disclaimer 1) I really am kidding
Disclaimer 2) I've never been a big Koivu fan, but as a Habs fan I hope he does well, always

Nil d · Guru

MC Girl wrote:

I went to see "The Ropcket" last night it was a very good movie... maybe more of the poster here should see it to obtain the proper mind-set for appreciating what it means to support a TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Habs... take it to the limit... Just curious Larry...... Is it in entirely in English or are there subtitles? I've been dying to see it.

You were asking Larry, but I didn't see a reply.

I saw The Rocket; it was indeed a very good show.

Depending on where you see it, the subtitles will be either in French or English. The actors just spoke in whatever language the original players would have spoken (the Richards always spoke French at home, Dick Irvin only spoke English, etc.). In Quebec theatres, there are French subtitles for the English parts, and in the rest of the country there are English subtitles for the French parts. Being bilingual, I find subtitles a little distracting (they rarely translate word for word, which I find loses a bit of the original intent).

But go see the show. As a younger fan, you may see a lot of stuff you had not known about. And it's simply a good movie - my wife hates hockey, and probably enjoyed the show more than I did!

Muller93 · Guru

Ando wrote:

Johab wrote: ...And really, it isnt And-o or AB who keep bringing this saku topic up everytime. It is other members who bring up the "what about saku" when he isnt mentioned. Tahhhh Dahhhhhh!!! No worries gang!!! The two resident members (and co-founders of the 'Saku Mouse Club') are just burning up that he wasn't playing 'lead fiddle' last night in the first game of 'the real season' (as they put it). I'm 100% certain that they will be here provoking another fight when Saku scores. ...until then, they will make this a personal attack on AB and And-o with their childish (although very humerous) antics!

To set the record straight. My original post was not intended to get everyone riled up.

I posted my thoughts on the game. Happened to think koivu had an awsome game and since he did not rack up points...I figured all the technical aspects of his game were worth mentioning. It was a great game by him. I'm not taking it back.

Funny though...it was only one paragraph out of about 7.

I guess I am not allowed to mention Koivu in any positive manner. So I will not anymore. I will try to be more sensitive to the fact that what I post may be taken the wrong way by certain posters. I actually never thought of And-O or AB. I figured everyone would be happy with the win and looking to post some analysis. I was just excited about the win and at the same time, concerned about the shots on goal.

Sorry all.

Geesh. Go habs go( Ribby, Sunny, Huet, Souray, Kovalev, and yes Koivu...)