Saku11 wrote: from Tsn.ca .........he is gone!!!! LOL
I bet you the happiest person is Quinn. Anyway, earlier today, TSN posted a b.s. article about what a power struggle it was going to be to get rid of Quinn bla bla bla...sometimes they make me wonder those guys. Paul Maurice (ex-carolina head) will be there in his place, right? And Quinn either retires or takes over Pittsburgh who has no head coach if you ask me.
Once again a VERY good coach bites the dust due to the incompetence of a General Manager. In my mind, the blame here lies with John Ferguson Jr. who has done nothing since getting there aside from signing over the hill players such as O'Neill, Lindros, Nolan and Belfour. Quinn was very well liked by the players who must also shoulder some of the blame.
ONE MORE TIME THE GM GETS TO PUT "HIS GUY" in there. JF Jr. hired Paul Maurice to coach the farm team..duhhhhh..do you think Maurice will be the next head coach in Toronto?lol. I would bet my next paycheck on it. Good luck coaching that bunch of Geriatrics that Ferguson has signed Paul!
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I'm as confused as a starving baby in a topless bar!
This was Fergie's mess for sure, but the coach always seems to take the fall. I am not a Quinn fan (because he is a whiner and WAS a leaf), but you can't argue with his winning % over the past 7 years. He is a good coach and he'll find a new home very shortly.
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"To you with falling hands we throw the torch. Be yours to hold it high."
Agree, if I was owner I would fire the GM also. He thinned out the team with has beens like Lindross, Allison and O'Niel who ate up Cap space. Then when injuries occured, they had zero depth. I think both Quinn and Fergie should of been fired.
Agree, if I was owner I would fire the GM also. He thinned out the team with has beens like Lindross, Allison and O'Niel who ate up Cap space. Then when injuries occured, they had zero depth. I think both Quinn and Fergie should of been fired.
In spite of our feelings for the Leafs, let me go on record as saying that I feel that Pat Quinn is one of the best coaches in the NHL and will be remembered in history as such. You do not coach a sad team like Toronto and make the playoffs 6 years in a row without knowing what you are doing. Although I felt he was too whiney at times (goes with the jersey) I respect Pat Quinn as a fellow coach. He works hard and gets alot out of little.
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I sure hope Juien doesn't go there. All the best to wherever he goes, but not the Leafs. Front runner is the guy who coached the Marlies, man I know his name but can't think of it. AGHHHHH I hate when that happens!!!!!
Ray: Paul Maurice. IMO, he is a great NHL-calibre coach who was brought to Marlies until the Leafs' coaching position was vacated. We'll probably see him behind the Leafs' bench.
JFJ inherrited the pro coaching staff. Sure, he didn't help Quinn out with on-ice personel, but his arguement could be if JFJ had hired his own coach, they would have been in sync. Even though Quinn was on the selection commitee for the GM when JFJ was hired, I don't think Quinn was ever happy that he had to choose to be either GM or coach, he wanted to stay on as both.
Barry, we are going to disagree on his attributes as a head coach. Why is it that when a player doesn't win a championship, he can't be called great? Quinn over 650 wins as a head coach, 2 appearances in the Stanley Cup Finals, but no Stanley Cups. He doesn't have what it to get his team to go the extra mile. I couldn't stand him in Vancouver, and I couldn't stand him in Toronto. I don't even think I remember him in LA.
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I walked past a restaurant yesterday that had a sign in the window that said, "Lobster Tail and Beer." I went in, since I enjoy all three.
And P.S. to my post above. I've actually met the man in the off-season. He seemed like a fairly good guy. We didn't become bosom budies, or anything, but he handled being introduced to alot of people he will never see again quite well.
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I walked past a restaurant yesterday that had a sign in the window that said, "Lobster Tail and Beer." I went in, since I enjoy all three.
The radio sports shows in this area have been blaming the two guys above John Ferguson Jr. for the loafs mess for the past few weeks and supporting Quinn. If you've seen Quinn's last few interviews, you'd have to think he was behaving like a guy who knew he'd be fired as soon as the season ended. Joking after losses and seeming disinterested to me is a tell tale sign you know you're the fall guy. Paul Maurice seems to be a shoe in for the job for sure.
Just to show you how Toronto centric TSN is, heard this off Team990 Thursday night, during the Canadiens morning skate, TSN called their reporter at practice, Michael Whalen and asked him to ask Gainey of what he thinks of Quinn's firing.
Well some other fool asked Gainey, and gainey replied "no comment".
How laughable is that??? As if Gainey would give two #$@% about Quinn's firing on the eve of the playoffs.
I expect Quinn to be named a coach or GM of some team in the off-season.
I still believe that the wrong man took the fall..Ferguoson's signings have been laughable to say the least. Not to Fergy..do not buy that new home in Toronto just yet.
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Yes, Peddie's meddling has been the biggest problem for sure...let the hockey guys make the hockey decissions guy!!! They really could have taken all three of them out and not been wrong in my books. Quinn's biggest flaw as a coach is he's overly loyal to the veterans. Very honorable character trait, but maybe not in an NHL coach.
But all things being equal, I'm really happy Toronto is so screwed up
Peddie and Fergie both have to go. From the Habs' perspective, it will be a good thing if they stick around.
Peddie will never be let go from the organization. He generates too much money for the board. As far as they are concerned, he is perfect. With a crappy Raptors team and a less than stellar Leafs team, he has never had a season in the red. NEVER. He also runs other business interests for Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment.
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Ray: Paul Maurice. IMO, he is a great NHL-calibre coach who was brought to Marlies until the Leafs' coaching position was vacated. We'll probably see him behind the Leafs' bench.-- Edited by Jonny G at 16:01, 2006-04-20
Maurice is one of those guys that you hope never takes a pro coaching job. He is far too talented in rearing young players, and turning them into pros. The Marlies had 10 or 11 guys called up this year, and lead the AHL in games missed due to injuries, and they still were respectable and made the playoffs. Maurice's talents will be wasted in the NHL. IMHO
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I walked past a restaurant yesterday that had a sign in the window that said, "Lobster Tail and Beer." I went in, since I enjoy all three.
I hope Peddie and JFJ are there for a while and the Leafs aren't in the play-offs for a while! I have also heard Clarence Campbell might end up in TO, and that Craig Patrick and Pat Quinn in Boston.
Well, he did take Carolina to the finals with a pretty mediocre team. He can't be that bad ( Maurice I mean).
As for Quinn, I think he's lost it a bit lately as a coach. I realize there is only so much you can do with what your (horrible) GM gives you, but Quinn has always preferred teams full of veterans. Lately he just seems less with it. Not to say he won't get revitalized by finding a place where he can get revenge....wouldn't it be something if he wound up in Boston? He'd fit in well there. I won't be looking forward to it.
I am confused as to how Quinn is a good coach? Does the Leafs lack of discipline not reflect directly on the coach? I think Quinn is a garbage coach, who has had many. many stacked teams in TO that couldn't get the job done. The only bad thing about him going is now I have to hear the Laff fans talk about how great thier new coach is, and how he is going to bring them to the cup next year. I hope the get a coach in the caliber of Quinn. 40 more years without a cup there would be fine with me.