Bulis + press box = 1 happy hab fan

rwp2le · Guru

Bulis + press box = 1 happy hab fan

Habtastic · Guru

I respectfully disagree with almost everything in your 1st and 3rd paragraphs. :)

Habtastic

rwp2le · Guru

I respect your right to disagree, but in my defense, I still feel I am right about Bulis. I for one will be glad to see him gone next year.

The Kahuna · Guru

I love Kovelev's ability as much as anyone, but come on, he really was coasting tonight! When you have an odd man rush and Kovy started out with the puck carrier...how else can you explain he ended up 30 feet behind the play (on more than one occasion). He's a great player...WHEN HE WANTS TO BE! That just ain't good enough!

rwp2le · Guru

I know what you are saying, and I am not defending that aspect of it. I am saying that a player like Jan Bulis has no right to be on the ice with him. I really think Bulis is a career 4th line player. Like Begin, but without the grit. And that is in no way to be taken as any disrepect to Begin. I love the guy.

Figaro · Guru

Kovalev's selfish play can make anyone look like a forth line centre. He made Ribs into one and he convinced certain members of this fine board that koivu doesn't belong anywhere near first or ever 2nd line duties. Kovalev is so friggin' good that he can make coal look like gold and then make gold look like coal.

rwp2le · Guru

I don't think Kovalev made anyone think that Koviu is not a 1st line center. I think the fact that Koviu had the puck in the slot 5 times tonight and didn't shoot it did. Bulis has looked like a 4th line player since coming to Montreal. Just because he has a few goal, doesn't mean he is a scorer. Remember, Begin had 12 goals in the first 30 games? And he may be the heart and soul of this team, but a goal scorer he is not.

And a side note, coal turns into diamonds.

plouf · Guru

Wow rwp! Some of your insights were brilliant, but I also disagreed with so many of them I don't know where to begin:

-Bulis. Bulis is not a top 2 line player, but he's an effective 3rd line guy. He's got almost 20 goals, without much power play time and almost no top 2 line time. He has one less goal than Kovalev himself! Kovalev who plays on skilled lines (usually), is never asked to back check, and gets a ton of power play time. Bulis has also shown terrific defensive ability and hustle throughout his time with the Habs. He may lack in consistency and physical presence, and his lack of finish is SO frustrating, but he's a very handy guy in the new NHL, especially with his speed, and ...those chances? He creates a lot of them himself, just by being so quick. Maybe Bulis should be irritated about being stuck playing with a guy who was floating tonight? (just trying to get you going there)

-our PP. Yes it was horrible. But to generalize about coaching etc...doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you consider how solid our power play has been for nearly the whole season. Aside from goaltending, it's our biggest strength. I think you have to chalk it up to the whole team being off tonight. (I think our biggest coaching problem is not being able to switch to a more uptempo style when we need it - look at how Buffalo can switch effortlessly from the forecheck to the trap once they've got their lead going....if only we could do the reverse)

-Souray one of our most consistent d-men all year? What? Everybody seems to forget that Souray was one of our worst players for half this season. And wasn't he the guy getting undressed tonight? Again? I like Souray, but c'mon. He's an average defensive player at best. Offense, hitting, leadership, character, sure...but on defense he's no stud. I think Rivet and Souray IS a bad pairing though, but only because they're both kind of slow.

-Streit with Markov? Those are the two finesse-type "puck movers"...those guys shouldn't be paired.

rwp2le · Guru

I do stand corrected on Souray and all season. I really did mean the last half of the season. But after watching the game from where I did tonight, my Bulis frustration was peeking. And Streit with Markov, only because they are two offensive guys, look how well it has worked for the Leafs, and I am being serious, with McCabe and Kaberl.... (not sure how to spell it)

And I do totally agree that Kovy floated tonight, but with the execption of Downey, who didnt?

Habs and Avs Fan · Veteran Member

Whoa Bulis should never be in "the press box" wtf..... How'd you rather see Sunny in there or Lapierre, give me a break you sure you know hockey ??? Bulis is a goal scorer, not the best but he has pretty good hands, good speed, a decent shot, he can hit, he plays defensively....... And hello he has 19 goals take those goals off of the habs what 234gf...... He maybe doesn't fit in with Kovy too much but neither does Zednik.....

rwp2le · Guru

Bulis is a goal scorer? And you question if I know hockey. Not going to start an arguement with you here my friend, but I am sure I have forgotten more about hockey than you will ever know.

Habs and Avs Fan · Veteran Member

rwp2le wrote:

Bulis is a goal scorer? And you question if I know hockey. Not going to start an arguement with you here my friend, but I am sure I have forgotten more about hockey than you will ever know.

Lol ya and Bulis isn't a goal scorer ....... He scores 5 goals a year right ??? lmfao funny guy. I'm sure if you were Gainey you'd bring in Lapierre and bench Bulis haha.

AB Habman · Guru

rwp2le wrote:
I would rather see Ivanis on this line, at least the guy is big.

This is the only thing that made sense to me in your whole post. Kovy is a puck hog and Ribs always seems to pass to him because the left winger never seems to be open. It's kind of like watching a two man line. With Gainey not happy with the finish of Zed and Bulis on that line, why not call on big Ivanans to just go to the net and create havoc. He would force one defender and a winger to move him out.

Fatherhab · Senior Member

Come on folks- this is an ordinary team that when they play as a team have shown that they belong in the playoffs. Against Buffalo, this team played below ordinary and got they results they deserved. While watching them tonight, it reminded me of the same team that got shutout in Ottawa back in January. 3 shots in the first period-incredible, just incredible. Don't take me wrong on this point, because I really like this guy, but when Komisarek is not hitting, then he is not playing inspired and gawd forbid, this ordinary team cannot afford to have anyone taking the night off. Am I the only one here who gets frustrated watching the opposition skate around in our end all night with the puck, and not one of the habs lays a check on an opposing player. Grow some shoulders boys or has the new NHL forbidden body-checking?

Andy · Veteran Member

I was at the game last night with a neutral hockey fan. And near the end of the game he said to me, do you really think Bulis is that bad? The reason he said that because I was cussing his name on every bad play he made. He missed a few chances, did not play well defensively, and did not help Kovalev out. Zednik should of been on that line last night and for good. Good bye Bulis!! Please Gainey !!!

plouf · Guru

Habs and Avs Fan wrote:

Whoa Bulis should never be in "the press box" wtf..... How'd you rather see Sunny in there or Lapierre, give me a break you sure you know hockey ??? Bulis is a goal scorer, not the best but he has pretty good hands, good speed, a decent shot, he can hit, he plays defensively....... And hello he has 19 goals take those goals off of the habs what 234gf...... He maybe doesn't fit in with Kovy too much but neither does Zednik.....

You should probably cool it...wtf, lmfao....because you've come up with some pretty preposterous posts yourself, lolm lmfao, wtf!?

plouf · Guru

rwp2le wrote:

I do stand corrected on Souray and all season. I really did mean the last half of the season. But after watching the game from where I did tonight, my Bulis frustration was peeking. And Streit with Markov, only because they are two offensive guys, look how well it has worked for the Leafs, and I am being serious, with McCabe and Kaberl.... (not sure how to spell it) And I do totally agree that Kovy floated tonight, but with the execption of Downey, who didnt?

Let's just agree that the team sucked last night. People are ranting because they had to watch that garbage. I don't think we need to start panicking though. You can bet Bulis, etc...will get an earful today.

brooklynhabfan · Guru

plouf wrote:

You should probably cool it...wtf, lmfao....because you've come up with some pretty preposterous posts yourself, lolm lmfao, wtf!?

And you do know that an avatar doesn't have to feature an Av, right?

Desi · Senior Member

Fatherhab wrote:

Come on folks- this is an ordinary team that when they play as a team have shown that they belong in the playoffs. Against Buffalo, this team played below ordinary and got they results they deserved. While watching them tonight, it reminded me of the same team that got shutout in Ottawa back in January. 3 shots in the first period-incredible, just incredible. Don't take me wrong on this point, because I really like this guy, but when Komisarek is not hitting, then he is not playing inspired and gawd forbid, this ordinary team cannot afford to have anyone taking the night off. Am I the only one here who gets frustrated watching the opposition skate around in our end all night with the puck, and not one of the habs lays a check on an opposing player. Grow some shoulders boys or has the new NHL forbidden body-checking?

Right on all counts, Father. Sometimes we forget (like when they go on a winning streak) just how ordinary this team can be. If anything, they've overachieved at times this season -- and I'm glad for it. But at the end of the day, they're not a top-10 team bby any means.

Les Canadiens sont la

superhab · Guru

I'll start off by saying congrats on 200 since nobody else did. But i have to disagree a little bit, YOur right Bulis is not a second line player but he could be a good shutdown player, and has proved that in the past. HE has one less goal than Kovalev. Yet hes a bum. Kovy is to skilled to have the stats that he has. Ribs kept setting him up and he kept screwing up. Kovalev should have had three goals yesterday and Ribs three assists. How about that time he was set up all alone in the high slot and he fanned? And this guy is supposed to be proud of his limited numbers? And if you want to talk about taking a guy out of the lineup maybe it should be Perezhogin who has been useless.

ON a side note i was at the game yesterday and guess who was the first guy off the ice during the pregame skate? Kovalev, that shows a lot about his work ethic, The last few guys were Higgins, Bulis, Ryder, and Saku. And when Kovy left the ice who had to follow him? Gainey, Gainey has to baby him cause he's such a primadonna.

MC Girl · Guru

superhab wrote:

I'll start off by saying congrats on 200 since nobody else did. But i have to disagree a little bit, YOur right Bulis is not a second line player but he could be a good shutdown player, and has proved that in the past. HE has one less goal than Kovalev. Yet hes a bum. Kovy is to skilled to have the stats that he has. Ribs kept setting him up and he kept screwing up. Kovalev should have had three goals yesterday and Ribs three assists. How about that time he was set up all alone in the high slot and he fanned? And this guy is supposed to be proud of his limited numbers? And if you want to talk about taking a guy out of the lineup maybe it should be Perezhogin who has been useless. ON a side note i was at the game yesterday and guess who was the first guy off the ice during the pregame skate? Kovalev, that shows a lot about his work ethic, The last few guys were Higgins, Bulis, Ryder, and Saku. And when Kovy left the ice who had to follow him? Gainey, Gainey has to baby him cause he's such a primadonna.

RWP2LE & myself were there also & noticed that. We also noticed Kovy was wearing a turtleneck for the warm ups... was he sick?

&.... What happened with Ribs???? He's always the last one off the ice in warm ups & last night he left 2nd to last. For a guy who has superstitions, that seems a bit odd.

-- Edited by MC Girl at 15:06, 2006-04-13

24 Rings · Guru

For my two cents, I don't think Bulis is the problem at all. We got guys like Garth Murray out there and you are trying to tell me that Bulis should be on the bench? Bonk? He's one of our best 2-way guys. We lose one game and all this sh*t starts to pour out.

rwp2le · Guru

Well I will start now by saying that when I wrote this last night I was very, very upset. I will admit our entire team looked like garbage. I looked like Kovy phoned in his back check, but he was not the only one. I have been a big disbeliever in Bulis' abilities. We had 2 guys beside us from Montreal last night, and they were saying that they feel he is no more than Turner Stevenson with more speed, and less size. And as for Kovy's stat, take a look at Iginlia's stats this year, he has 4 more points that Alex does. I am not saying Kovalev is perfect, but I find it frustrating when I see his abilities wasted game after game. And as for all the talk, not in this thread, about Kovalev being a sniper, the guy has 100 more career assists than goals. To me that is an offensive player, not a sniper. Ryder is a sniper. 2 times more goals than assists. But for anyone who I offended with my American beer induced rant, I am truly sorry. This was just my way of venting. I am not saying that my opinions are right, they are just right in my eyes. I am realistic enough to know I am not the greatest hockey mind in the world, but then again who on here really is? That is not a shot at anyone, but if one of us were one of the worlds best hockey minds, that person would be sipping champagne right now celebrating our first president's trophy in years. This was a just a way for me to vent my frustrations after spending my hard earned money to see the Buffalo Sabres take on a Jr. A calibre team last night. Lets just hope the real Habs show up to take on the Bruins tonight. Thank you all for reading my rant, MC girl is tired of hearing it.

24 Rings · Guru

rwp2le wrote:

Well I will start now by saying that when I wrote this last night I was very, very upset. I will admit our entire team looked like garbage

Yeah , I kind of figured that. No worries. Bulis is gonna bag one for ya tonight!

MC Girl · Guru

24 Rings wrote:

For my two cents, I don't think Bulis is the problem at all. We got guys like Garth Murray out there and you are trying to tell me that Bulis should be on the bench? Bonk? He's one of our best 2-way guys. We lose one game and all this sh*t starts to pour out.

Realize, when our team is winning there are few who see the faults in our play, even though some are evident. I've heard things like "that was a close one" or "if we had lost that game it would have been his fault" & so on & so on. Then we cast the "issue" aside because in the end... it didn't cost us the game. No harm No foul right?

Well last night it did cost us the game & we are struggling to stay alive here. So, true to form.... we have something to say about it. That shouldn't be a surprise!!! That's why we have a forum, to speak our minds & express what we are feeling re: the play. This would be an extremely boring site if all it was... was "Good game Good game.... better luck next time.... BOOORING! We played a bad game last night... some worse than others.... and some of the "others" have had a steady decline in their game lately. There has been slips here & there, bad plays etc ... that (when they come sporadically) are noticed then ignored.... last night it was like a continuous reel. The "Habs bloopers" if you will.

So this sh*t you speak of is complements of their play. It was a sh*t game, therefore the comments the play created are not sh*t.... they are to be expected, it's a forum.

24 Rings · Guru

All I am saying is that as soon as we lose one, all the critics come out. The team sucked, yes, that was evident. The thing I don't like is to put it on one guy, Bulis, who played just like everyone else. The guy was benched and everyone says he should be playing....they put him back in and he plays well for the first few games, scores a couple goals...now they lose one and he is to blame?

If we were GM's this team would be nowhere near the playoffs.

Habs and Avs Fan · Veteran Member

brooklynhabfan wrote:

plouf wrote:

You should probably cool it...wtf, lmfao....because you've come up with some pretty preposterous posts yourself, lolm lmfao, wtf!?

And you do know that an avatar doesn't have to feature an Av, right?

But Super Joe is my fav. player lol .....Look at him 36 and he's still averaging over a point per game, kind of hard at that age.

MC Girl · Guru

24 Rings wrote:

All I am saying is that as soon as we lose one, all the critics come out. The team sucked, yes, that was evident. The thing I don't like is to put it on one guy, Bulis, who played just like everyone else. The guy was benched and everyone says he should be playing....they put him back in and he plays well for the first few games, scores a couple goals...now they lose one and he is to blame? If we were GM's this team would be nowhere near the playoffs.

True, but....

I understand that the emphasis was put on Bulis due to the Topic Title of this thread, but as you read on... he was not the only one tagged with the blame. You chose to defend him (Bulis) because you feel he's just peachy the way he is. Well that's just fine, it's your opinion. But as you can see, others have the same opinion as rwp2le. People view things differently, that happens.... some see the good in others, while some see the bad. (e.i. No matter how he plays, rwp2le will always defend Kovy, even when he does play poorly. rwp2le will go on & on about past stats & games to prove that Kovy is all he's cracking him up to be. I won't call out some of the others on here that will defend someone no matter how good/bad/ugly they've played / coached.)

Listen, I don't agree with my hubby about the topic of his thread, I like Bulis... but it's how he & some others feel. That is the purpose of the forum, to speak your mind. You don't call someone's views sh*t no matter how you feel about what's been said. You can disagree, debate & discuss your views with them, but to classify what has been posted as "sh*t" is just wrong. Sh*t is the word that is used to describe how they played.... not how people have posted their views. If we all felt the same way, there would never be controversy.... & let's face it, that a big part of the game.

24 Rings · Guru

The way I meant it was that when we lose all the complaining comes out. I didn't mean it that, that particular post was sh*t.

Believe me, I am defender of free speech and all that jazz, as well. I say what I want when I want. I am just opposed to the complaining that follows every loss. It's not like we lost 5 in a row, it was just one game, mind you it was disgusting. Aynhow, what I say doesn't really matter does it, cause you can say whatever you like!!!!!

...AND I think Kovy is overated!!!

rwp2le · Guru

When it comes to Bulis, I have complained about him after wins, and was happy when he was a scratch. We all know how AB feels about Downey, well Bulis is my Downey. I am not by any means saying he is the worst player on the team, and was not only complaining about him because we lost. I do complain about him when we are winning too. I think we all have some one we don't like. My rant for sure was fueled by our loss. But I am generally a pretty high strung guy. 70 hours a week, and 10 days off a year tend to do that to ya.