Habs MVP??

adam13 · Member

Habs MVP??

Diehardhabsfan · Veteran Member

im gonna have to say Huet. There is no doubt in my mind it will be him

AB Habman · Guru

adam13 wrote:

Here is my question de jour! As we head towards this last important stretch for the Habs here is the important question that needs to be answered....WHO IS THE MVP THIS SEASON In seasons past you just had to look between the pipes and find the answer...Theo...but Theo is gone...so now do we look between the pipes again? In my order of consideration: Cristobal Huet...the signs around the Bell Centre tell the story...Crystal Wall, Crystal Ball, Hip Hip Huet...etc. etc. no player has made it more possible for the Habs to be in the playoffs than he. Accounting for 17 of the Habbies 38 wins... Andrei Markov...when he is out we lose...when he is in we win...seems simple enough...our worst stretch of the season came when he was injured and suspended. Simply makes players around him play with more confidence. Steve Begin...a Canadiens player near the top of the league in hits...how long has it been since we've seen that...I can recall a dozen or so moments when he came up big this season...Plays the game with reckless abandon that makes his teammates play harder. Alexei Kovalev... play has been to inconsistent of late to truly merit consideration but he has stepped up big in a lot of games when needed. Saku Koivu... say what you will about having scored 1 in the last 25 games...he still sets up people every game it seems...has there been a more important player during the win streak? Thats my two cents...let me know what all y'all think.

I actually like your list but I would stick Souray in at #5. When he turned his game around the whole team started playing better also. I think this guy is one of the greatest team players and class acts to ever wear a Habs jersey. Also love his play in the second half! You can sense respect from the other players. They love him! Also, love the way he verballized the loss of CJ as a sad thing when no other player would.

At #6, I have to go with Rivet. Solid all season and tough as nails. Also not to mention his leadership qualities. A true professional!

sarge · Member

MVP - Markov, you said it, he is in Habs win, he is out Habs lose.

Runner up - Souray, I think he teaches the youngsters more than we know.

Honorable Mention - Huet, he was placed in a pretty miserable circumstance with the old Theodore debacle. He has shown fantastic poise to get wins and class to share the limelight with his teamates.

JohnM · Guru

1) Huet

2) Markov

3) Koivu

4) Kovalev

5) Rivet

Muller93 · Guru

1.) Gainey

2.) Markov

3.) Koivu

4.) Huet

5.) Souray

...Huet...really really solid but profits from Gainey's defensive system. Don't get me wrong, I think he is playing like a solid number one guy( perhaps top 5-6 in the league...but that save percentage reflects very few second chances by the opposition).

Ando · Guru

And-o can't/won't respond directly to this request for a "Top 5" because it would close the thread...

...suffice it say though, #11 (if he did make the cut) isn't any higher than 5th!!!

(Placing Saku above Huet though might be the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen on this board...EVER!!! The guy has singlehandedly carried the Habs to a playoff position...how is that for gratitude!?!?!? Honestly...suppose Huet's save percentage and GAA were both average...do the Habs make the playoffs? ~ NO! Now suppose that #11 didn't take a stride all season...what affect would this have? CASE CLOSED!!!)

Muller93 · Guru

Ando wrote:

And-o can't/won't respond directly to this request for a "Top 5" because it would close the thread... ...suffice it say though, #11 (if he did make the cut) isn't any higher than 5th!!! (Placing Saku above Huet though might be the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen on this board...EVER!!! The guy has singlehandedly carried the Habs to a playoff position...how is that for gratitude!?!?!? Honestly...suppose Huet's save percentage and GAA were both average...do the Habs make the playoffs? ~ NO! Now suppose that #11 didn't take a stride all season...what affect would this have? CASE CLOSED!!!)

once again a display from someone who I figure has never played the game to understand it...

Save percentage: both a reflection of good goaltending and team defense.

Here is why: If you play on a horrible team, out of 100 shots faced...20 or so would be quality opportunities. So if you are Fluery on Pitts, he might face 38 shots/ 9-10 of which are quality

Now if you play on a team whose focus is on team defense, out of 100 shots faced, maybe 10 are quality opportunities. Huet is facing 30 shots/5-6 of which are quality...Thus, a better save percentage. Am I right Barry???

Having said that, Huet has been spectacular and focused. Really good. But come on And-o, he is not "carrying" this team. This "turnaround" has been a team thing. Starting with players buying into Gainey's tactics( nothing against CJ) and leadership from Souray, Rivet, koivu.

Ando · Guru

Huet - 20 starts...and seven shut-outs (or is it six???). Highest save percentage in the NHL. Lowest GAA in the NHL.

If that isn't carrying the team...what would be???

...Mulsy...there is a fine line between wrong and stupid...and you are standing on that line right now!!!

davidb · Guru

seven

Ando · Guru

Oh yeah...and Huet is a "late comer" candidate for the Vezina...

...but he isn't the Habs MVP by a landslide?????!!?!!

JohnM · Guru

Andy, I don't want to take away from Huet's success this season but he has 17 out of the Habs 38 wins. He has been great when he's played but I wouldn't say he is the only reason the boys are close to clinching a playoff spot this year.

plouf · Guru

Ando wrote:

Huet - 20 starts...and seven shut-outs (or is it six???). Highest save percentage in the NHL. Lowest GAA in the NHL.
If that isn't carrying the team...what would be???
...Mulsy...there is a fine line between wrong and stupid...and you are standing on that line right now!!!

Relax there And-o.
What about Markov?
The team simply can't win a game without him.

For me:

1)Markov and Huet tied
everybody else is way behind...

Koivu, Kovalev, Begin, Higgins, Rivet all candidates.

Those who are suggesting Souray clearly missed the first half of this season. The guy took over 40 games to get going.

Muller93 · Guru

Ando wrote:

Huet - 20 starts...and seven shut-outs (or is it six???). Highest save percentage in the NHL. Lowest GAA in the NHL. If that isn't carrying the team...what would be??? ...Mulsy...there is a fine line between wrong and stupid...and you are standing on that line right now!!!

Again, read my response. I recognize the thought processing skills are way over your head And-o...but this team in general turned it around pretty well( ??? what happens against better teams however...).

And I never suggested that Huet is not a big reason for the turn around. He has been stellar...but don't ya think on some level that....ummmm Gainey/Carbonneau/Jarvis have anything to do with the multiple shutouts?( what is that, like 20 Selke trophy's coaching this team???). I think perhaps And-o, you are the ultimate bandwagoner...no concept of how technical competitive hockey really is. Shutouts and points seem to be your yardstick for who is playing well. Well spock...this game is much more complex then that.

And Plouf..I agree with you about Souray, but when we looks at the habs record the last 25 games, I think alot of that has to do with having the "old" Souray back. Hey if Huet can be considered the MVP( which I would not argue with too much) with only 25 games played....then why not Souray? Souray went through tough times with his ex and little girl. I cut him some slack back then and like the way he looks now.

Nil d · Guru

Ando wrote:

..Mulsy...there is a fine line between wrong and stupid...and you are standing on that line right now!!!

See now, that was a personal comment (not deleted by our moderators, which is OK) which is on the line between being acceptable as an attempt at humour and a totally unnecessary personal attack against a poster who is always polite and reasoned. It's very easy for some people to fall over that line, which is why we need rules.

I know you'll think I'm a prude, but there you have it...........

rwp2le · Guru

Nil d wrote:

See now, that was a personal comment (not deleted by our moderators, which is OK) which is on the line between being acceptable as an attempt at humour and a totally unnecessary personal attack against a poster who is always polite and reasoned. It's very easy for some people to fall over that line, which is why we need rules. I know you'll think I'm a prude, but there you have it...........

That is exactly why I was upset when Brooklyn made the comments about people not spelling properly and made the Mongo comment. It is good to disagree, but there is no need to bash anyone. I myself am guilty of bashing that leaf fan who came in here after AK leveled Tucker, but don't generally take shots at peoples intelligence. I am in no way saying what And-o said was a shot, but I do understand the guide lines. When we take shots at people we start fights, and that is no good here. We are all here to show our worship for our habs, plain and simple.

heet_150 · Guru

And back to our original programming. Markov gets my vote for MVP.

From canadiens.com

All about Andrei: Tuesday against the Bruins, the Canadiens earned their 10th straight win with Andrei Markov in the lineup. Over the last 20 games with No. 79 in the lineup, the Canadiens have earned at least a point on 19 occasions, posting a 16-1-3 record. Markov has benefited on the scoresheet, notching three goals and nine assists. The 27-year-old blueliner is now just a point shy of having the best season by a Canadiens defenseman since Vladimir Malakhov collected 44 points in 1997-98.

adam13 · Member

LOL love the first line of that post Heet.

Wow that tidbit of knowledge from Canadiens.com is so interesting..its amazing that although all the Habs fans like us know how well he has played I don't think any one of realize exactly how crazy well he has played all season long.

However lets not compare him to Malakhov...something tells me that migth jinx him.

Lets hope his 10 game win streak turns to 11 tonight against Sens...that continues and he's my new MVP leader.

heet_150 · Guru

adam13 wrote:

However lets not compare him to Malakhov...something tells me that migth jinx him.

Believe it or not, I was going to delete that line out before I posted.

24 Rings · Guru

heet_150 wrote:

Markov has benefited on the scoresheet, notching three goals and nine assists. The 27-year-old blueliner is now just a point shy of having the best season by a Canadiens defenseman since Vladimir Malakhov collected 44 points in 1997-98.

That is kind of sad isn't it? We've been really thin on the blueline these past 10 years.

Patrick Traverse, anyone?

thehabit · Member

HUEt is the #1 in MVP and Markov a close 2nd, but at the same time the whole d fensive core has come up big on numerous occassions Bouillon, Kommie, Rivet, Streit all pitched in to help out Huet between the pipes. I know a couple of players walked around Souray this year, but he's gone through life altering circumstances off the ice as Muller I believe mentioned, maintaining a solid overall performance and he's ready to drop the gloves at any time the way he did in Boston. MTL D fense gets my vote

skov1044 · Member

i cant agrue with huet as mvp

but just how huet helped turn this team around

i believe higgins has done the same

he has added youth ,grit ,speed and has found a way to put the puck in the net

habs mvp

1-huet

2-markov

3-higgins

ray · Senior Member

Gotta say Huet, this guy should get some votes for the Hart trophy also, one shutout out of the lead and at the top of most of the other goaltending catergories. MVP is the most valuable to his team. I would hate to find out if Huet wasn't here, what place would we be in. In saying that Huet is definetly the most valuable to the Habs.