And we have games in hand on both of them.  Montreal is playing some teams this month that we should be able to grab a lot of points from.  2 PIT, 2 WSH, 2BOS, 2 NYI and 2 TO.  Right after that they play a tough series in OTT, BUF and NJ.  Those 10 games will place us but we have to grab 15-20 points to secure our spot, especially vs TO.  We beat them and they are toast.  They beat us and we have to take OTT and BUF.  Nothing is set yet, that's for sure.