2 Worse offcials I have seen, EVER

Jay1982 · Guru

2 Worse offcials I have seen, EVER

Muller93 · Guru

Jay1982 wrote:

As the title says. Seriously, its refs like that, who give all of us referees a bad name. These 2 douchebags couldn't referee themselves out of a soccer game.

Funny...I posted on an above post about what you would say about that Jay. Good to know you agree.

Nil d · Guru

Jay1982 wrote:

As the title says. Seriously, its refs like that, who give all of us referees a bad name. These 2 douchebags couldn't referee themselves out of a soccer game.

Glad to see it wasn't just us whiners who thought that! Thanks Jay.

I wonder if the Leafs pay them under the table? Hey if cops can take protection money............... (sorry, david!)

Arthur · Newbie

The only reason we lost tonight Refs were all for toronto and thats not just saying that because im a habs fan its just the way it is it makes you look at hockey in a different way when you see a game look fixed...I wonder if they should tap the phone lines of the refs from tonights game lol...one word discusting.

Jay1982 · Guru

They had a real talking to in between the 2nd and 3rd periods. I was simply disgusted at how things went down, even in the 3rd. I hope they aren't given anymore games for the rest of the year

Nil d · Guru

Jay1982 wrote:

They had a real talking to in between the 2nd and 3rd periods.

By whom? How do you know this?

Gravelbourger · Member

It was criminal....awful....a disgrace to the league. When is Gainey or Carbonneau going to show some emotion and throw a stick or waterbottle for God's sake's?? 7 straight penalties and 5 of them being of the sort that no one on the ice knew who was going from either team. Then the obvious make-up calls when we are down by 2 and have spent the entire game killing them off. These two weisels ruined a much anticipated game and took away all the flow. When are these stripes going to start calling DIVES?? It truly is a disgrace to the game. That Russian rolling around on the ice tonight and then out there the following shift...come on! The bottom line is that 11 power plays against 5 is unacceptable in any league. Higgins gets cross-checked severely into Belfour....a REAL penalty and no call. Thr bottom line is this looked along the lines of a fixed game BUT Huet has to better on Thursday in any hopes of a win.

Ando · Guru

That kind of officiating deters from the integrity of the game...and it makes a guy question the legitimacy of the outcome!

Anyone else notice how this ALWAYS seems to happen only versus Toronto?

The Habs might best have just headed off to Boston...forfeited the two points and rested.

...And-o feels like he has been cheated out of 3 hours! Seriously!!! That is the reason I could never watch wrestling...fixed!!!!?????? It sure makes a guy question it!!!

barry33 · Guru

Jay1982 wrote:

They had a real talking to in between the 2nd and 3rd periods. I was simply disgusted at how things went down, even in the 3rd. I hope they aren't given anymore games for the rest of the year

What pisses me off is THIS. After all these calls, they still insist on the old "ok I will call a weak one now against Toronto to even it up". By then it is too late!! Jay, all I aks for is CONSISTENCY!!!! We will go to Boston Thursday and probably be allowed to commit murder. The head of NHL officials needs to hang his head in shame and have a serious look at his officials. If you are gonna call everything then call everyhing..EVERY GAME!!! Don't go from a gust of wind being a penalty one game to allowing a mugging the next. And this has been happening game in and game out all year. Players like Souray I feel bad for. They still have no idea what they are allowed to do and that is not HIS fault. The non call on cross check by McCabe was brutal.

Having said that. Saks has GOT to stop taking the lazy hooking penalties. We have all harped on Zednick for the one arm penalties, but every game Koivu takes a lazy penalty at an inoppurtune time. That is out of character for him.

Jonny G · Senior Member

The refs blew (their whistles). However, the Habs looked tired the whole night. Not winning one-on-one battles in the corners the same way as against Philli. Les Boys will bounce back against Boston.

Jay1982 · Guru

barry33 wrote:

Jay1982 wrote: They had a real talking to in between the 2nd and 3rd periods. I was simply disgusted at how things went down, even in the 3rd. I hope they aren't given anymore games for the rest of the year What pisses me off is THIS. After all these calls, they still insist on the old "ok I will call a weak one now against Toronto to even it up". By then it is too late!! Jay, all I aks for is CONSISTENCY!!!! We will go to Boston Thursday and probably be allowed to commit murder. The head of NHL officials needs to hang his head in shame and have a serious look at his officials. If you are gonna call everything then call everyhing..EVERY GAME!!! Don't go from a gust of wind being a penalty one game to allowing a mugging the next. And this has been happening game in and game out all year. Players like Souray I feel bad for. They still have no idea what they are allowed to do and that is not HIS fault. The non call on cross check by McCabe was brutal. Having said that. Saks has GOT to stop taking the lazy hooking penalties. We have all harped on Zednick for the one arm penalties, but every game Koivu takes a lazy penalty at an inoppurtune time. That is out of character for him.

I agree 100% Barry. Even in the end of the game the refs were a little lax on the habs. I noticed 3 calls that should have been called against the habs, but weren't. I would rather have a game where those penalties get called against us, but at the same time, call against the opposing team. No make-up calls.

I was disgusted by the 2 referees incharge, it gets my blood boiling to see 2 morons on the ice when they can't call a game. Yet someone like me who has basically reached the cap of his referee career because he is "too short" (5'9) yet can call a better game with his eyes closed.

Seriously, if these are the newer batch of people they are sending to referee the NHL, they should think long and hard before they send size over skill; which is exactly what the NHL is doing now with officials. And look what happens. The supervisor must have stayed an extra hour ATLEAST going over all the garbage they missed.

The NHL officials are constantly supervised, and after games there is always a review/evaluation. The NHL won't come out and say there refs did a bad job, or admit that they had a weak game because they need to stand unified and back their Offcials, if not there will be total chaos within the refs. But I do know for a fact that after a bad game, they get taken to the cleaners. And hopefully these 2 got the full washdown.

barry33 · Guru

Jay1982 wrote:

barry33 wrote: Jay1982 wrote: They had a real talking to in between the 2nd and 3rd periods. I was simply disgusted at how things went down, even in the 3rd. I hope they aren't given anymore games for the rest of the year What pisses me off is THIS. After all these calls, they still insist on the old "ok I will call a weak one now against Toronto to even it up". By then it is too late!! Jay, all I aks for is CONSISTENCY!!!! We will go to Boston Thursday and probably be allowed to commit murder. The head of NHL officials needs to hang his head in shame and have a serious look at his officials. If you are gonna call everything then call everyhing..EVERY GAME!!! Don't go from a gust of wind being a penalty one game to allowing a mugging the next. And this has been happening game in and game out all year. Players like Souray I feel bad for. They still have no idea what they are allowed to do and that is not HIS fault. The non call on cross check by McCabe was brutal. Having said that. Saks has GOT to stop taking the lazy hooking penalties. We have all harped on Zednick for the one arm penalties, but every game Koivu takes a lazy penalty at an inoppurtune time. That is out of character for him. I agree 100% Barry. Even in the end of the game the refs were a little lax on the habs. I noticed 3 calls that should have been called against the habs, but weren't. I would rather have a game where those penalties get called against us, but at the same time, call against the opposing team. No make-up calls. I was disgusted by the 2 referees incharge, it gets my blood boiling to see 2 morons on the ice when they can't call a game. Yet someone like me who has basically reached the cap of his referee career because he is "too short" (5'9) yet can call a better game with his eyes closed. Seriously, if these are the newer batch of people they are sending to referee the NHL, they should think long and hard before they send size over skill; which is exactly what the NHL is doing now with officials. And look what happens. The supervisor must have stayed an extra hour ATLEAST going over all the garbage they missed. The NHL officials are constantly supervised, and after games there is always a review/evaluation. The NHL won't come out and say there refs did a bad job, or admit that they had a weak game because they need to stand unified and back their Offcials, if not there will be total chaos within the refs. But I do know for a fact that after a bad game, they get taken to the cleaners. And hopefully these 2 got the full washdown.

Jay- I have honestly had better officiating this year while coaching my Bantam AAA team than what I witnessed last night. But, to be fair, the habs were a tired team and did take a few lazy penalties. Jason Allison, who could not win a footrace with my grandmother, drew 2 hooking penalties. If you are gonna hook guys hook a Stajan or a Keberle who have wheels, not a guy like Allison or Domi who cannot skate. 2 calls bothered me in particular. The supposed high stick on Domi that drew a double minor was garbage and, to be honest, I am disappointed in Tie Domi. I have never seen him take a dive in his career but he did last night. Guess that indicates how desperate things are in Leafland. The other call, or non call, was the McCabe crosscheck on Higgins. How could those idiots miss that?!?? McCabe and Klee took liberties with the stick all night and it was let go, which is fine if you are going to call the whole game that way. But do not let that crap go, but turn around and call Markov for touching a Leaf on the way by with his stick.

Key Lime · Guru

Every sport that relies on human perception to call penalties will fall into the same nasty debates. This is the way I see it...

Some Referees are capable of making instant decisions and others do not like making important decisions without having first weighed up in their minds all the relevant information. In hockey, it's a split second decision that needs to be made. Experienced Referees rely on their 'gut instinct' when making judgments. The problem lays right there, there are not enough experienced refs in this 2 ref system.

Furthermore, each situation that a Referee judges must be made as if it is the first decision that he has made in the match. Referees carry baggage from the past decisions. They try to even up the score which is wrong!!!! It drives me crazy when that happens. Who are they to influence the outcome of a game? However, this is reality guys.

The arguement that the refs last night were pro-Leafs is a topic that is tricky. 11 penalties? I watched Candiens Express after the game. So I really saw the game twice but the second time in a condensed version and let me tell you that the refs better be admiting and pleading that they just had a bad game because several agianst the calls were just a joke. They should be ashamed of themselves.

hockeyman · Senior Member

There is no way in Hell these two refs wanted to be responsible for the elimination of the Laffs playoff hopes. And it shows by some of the calls they made. A complete utter joke!!!!