Montreal media a pain in the ass

nietche · Veteran Member

Montreal media a pain in the ass

Key Lime · Guru

These journalist know that it's human nature to be drawn to contraversial topics. This is why they stretch the truth because the real truth is not "News Worthy". It happens all the time but BG and the rest of management know who these losers are and in presse conferences, many times, those losers don't get the chance to get their questions answered. Tony Marinaro confirmed that yesterday on his late morning radio show.

barry33 · Guru

nietche wrote:

So who do you think it was that called the montreal media about Saku's request for a day off, Saku? Bob Gainey? sure, I am am sure that both Saku and Bob wanted to make sure that the media were well informed of the request. Honestly, this is like the tabloid papers that have pictures of Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt cheating on each other (pictures are all lookalikes). Montreal media are a deep and varied pool ... there are some bottom feeders working in this business who have nothing better to do than stir up contraversy

NO One "Called" the Montreal Media. Koivu did an interview on French TV, immediately after coming off the ice after losing the gold medal game. The reporter asked Saks if he had anything left to play in Long Island Tuesday and his natural response at the time (what did they expect for an answer..gee I can't wait!?) was "What do you think? I hope Bob Gainey will be in a good mood when I see him because I need the day off" Someone said "oh well he only wanted the day off not the game.HUH? I am the first one to jump all over the media in Montreal but in this case they got it right.

Key Lime · Guru

barry33 wrote:

nietche wrote: So who do you think it was that called the montreal media about Saku's request for a day off, Saku? Bob Gainey? sure, I am am sure that both Saku and Bob wanted to make sure that the media were well informed of the request. Honestly, this is like the tabloid papers that have pictures of Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt cheating on each other (pictures are all lookalikes). Montreal media are a deep and varied pool ... there are some bottom feeders working in this business who have nothing better to do than stir up contraversy NO One "Called" the Montreal Media. Koivu did an interview on French TV, immediately after coming off the ice after losing the gold medal game. The reporter asked Saks if he had anything left to play in Long Island Tuesday and his natural response at the time (what did they expect for an answer..gee I can't wait!?) was "What do you think? I hope Bob Gainey will be in a good mood when I see him because I need the day off" Someone said "oh well he only wanted the day off not the game.HUH? I am the first one to jump all over the media in Montreal but in this case they got it right.

Hold on Barry...not sure what you mean. You wrote the following "I hope Bob Gainey will be in a good mood when I see him because I need the day off". To me it sounds like he said day off, right? So how could of the media have gotten it right when they publish that he did not want to play game?

Muller93 · Guru

Key Lime wrote:

barry33 wrote:
Hold on Barry...not sure what you mean. You wrote the following "I hope Bob Gainey will be in a good mood when I see him because I need the day off". To me it sounds like he said day off, right? So how could of the media have gotten it right when they publish that he did not want to play game?

The naysayers will dig and dig. To me that sounds like "day" off.

barry33 · Guru

Muller93 wrote:

Key Lime wrote: barry33 wrote: Hold on Barry...not sure what you mean. You wrote the following "I hope Bob Gainey will be in a good mood when I see him because I need the day off". To me it sounds like he said day off, right? So how could of the media have gotten it right when they publish that he did not want to play game? The naysayers will dig and dig. To me that sounds like "day" off.

lol..Muller, tell me..what did he want the day off from? The team did not even skate yesterday.

Jay1982 · Guru

by yesterday, I assume you mean the day before yesterday

Muller93 · Guru

barry33 wrote:

Muller93 wrote:
Key Lime wrote: barry33 wrote: Hold on Barry...not sure what you mean. You lol..Muller, tell me..what did he want the day off from? The team did not even skate yesterday.

I don't know barry...he said "day" not "game" or "night". But if you want...you can continue to search for poor leadership abilities...your perogative

barry33 · Guru

Muller93 wrote:

barry33 wrote: Muller93 wrote: Key Lime wrote: barry33 wrote: Hold on Barry...not sure what you mean. You lol..Muller, tell me..what did he want the day off from? The team did not even skate yesterday. I don't know barry...he said "day" not "game" or "night". But if you want...you can continue to search for poor leadership abilities...your perogative

Actually Muller if you took the time to read my posts I am commending Koivu for playing last night and I indicated that it gives him major points as a leader by doing so. He sent a message that he is going to lead this team and I would have been very disappointed had he missed the opportunity to make that statement. What bothers me as much as people like And-O downing him at every opportunity, it also bothers me when people constantly turn things around in his favor no matter what. At times I think he could come out and say "Montreal Sucks and I Hate this City" and it would be twisted around in his favor. The guy is human. And not without fault. But in comparison to most of the rest of the players on that team he shows up to play every night and I respect him for that. I still hope that my opinion and observations lie somewhere between the haters and the lovers. If they don't , oh well. I will not lay awake tonite

Muller93 · Guru

barry33 wrote:

I still hope that my opinion and observations lie somewhere between the haters and the lovers. If they don't , oh well. I will not lay awake tonite

Gotcha. I have read all your posts. And you do land yourself somewhere in the "middle". I guess it's that part I don't get. Ya he is human and makes mistakes...but he is far and away the habs most important player all around and has been for years...why the fence sitting? Are you saying that the jury is still out on his leadership? Does he have to win a cup before you would be satisfied?( not a "sarcastic" tone...just curious).

I think it was purely speculative what he meant by "day" off, yet you were one of the first to pounce on it creating a euphoric drooling effect from And-o and AB. Those two guys wanted Ribs as captain and are just upset with certain "things" about Koivu. I get that some may prefer different "things" in a Habs Captain...and thus the constant bickering...that I understand( I think it's silly...but I get it).

In light of his past leadership demonstrations...It's hard to find fault in Koivu I think...unless you are searching hard. And as far as this year goes, he once again demonstrated his leadrership skills in Finland. And this year with the habs? I figure Koivu did not think CJ managed the room well as a coach which is why he did not say much in the way of positives upon CJ's dismissal. It would be hard to argue the locker room trouble.

As you know Barry...the captain leads on the ice and commands respect...if players are not towing that line...it is the coach who has the power to make the ultimate statements. Did CJ do that? It makes me wonder. Great tactical coach...nice guy...but he had a hornets nest on his hands...what do you think a guy like Keenan would have done to "clean up" the gangsta suits and media blabbing? Keenan may not be as good a coach as CJ...but sometimes you gotta rip a few heads off to get your point accross don't you think?

plouf · Guru

I also think the pro-Koivu people aren't quite as one-sided as we are always made out to be. I've publicly doubted Koivu's play plenty of times this season, actually. I'm not afraid to hear that he's not performing up to par. I just don't like it when he becomes the focus of criticism on the level of the likes of Theo. He is indeed human, and thus entitled to go through a slump once in a while without being called out as a key problem on the team and subjected to daily attacks. He's earned a little bit of respect.

AB Habman · Guru

Muller93 wrote:
I think it was purely speculative what he meant by "day" off, yet you were one of the first to pounce on it creating a euphoric drooling effect from And-o and AB. Those two guys wanted Ribs as captain and are just upset with certain "things" about Koivu. I get that some may prefer different "things" in a Habs Captain...and thus the constant bickering...that I understand( I think it's silly...but I get it).

Muller, your opinions would be taken more serious if you didn't make up crap to make a point.

I posted that Saks should rest and miss even a couple games in a few posts. Also I never suggested that Ribs should be Captain. I agreed with someone on Souray but never with Ribs this season or in the last.

Why do you continue to be antagonistic on this topic? No one will change their position anyway.

Also Muller, when Barry replies to your posts, he does it with respect on your position. Why can't you respect his position?

AB Habman · Guru

Rather than Muller answering AB's above post, he starts a new thread on how it's all in good fun?

What a crazy cycle we have going!

Johab · Guru

Anyone else lost?

Muller93 · Guru

AB Habman wrote:

Rather than Muller answering AB's above post, he starts a new thread on how it's all in good fun? What a crazy cycle we have going!

Hold up AB. I never read your above post until just now. Secondly...my post to Barry was respectful. I simply stated fact that he was one of the first to pounce on the opportunity to assume Koivu wanted the game off. Only to have the two lurking koivu bashers drool at the very thought.

And then the rest of the post only asked questions like at what point would Barry consider Koivu has earned full respect. And who he figures is ultimately responsible for the "team",,,is it the coach or is ot the captain? I have played hockey and can tell you that ultimately if the coach is not "stroking" certain guys( benching, or whatever) then it does not matter who the captain is. I simply wanted a coaches perspective

If Barry took the post as insulting...then it is another example of how email can be difficult to transmit tone. Yes I disagree with barry about Koivu having a "so-so" year, but Barry always has justifiable reasons and is diplomatic in his overall approach to Koivu. I read his posts and can see his point of view..does not mean I agree( Barry and i both posted that Koivu took a lazy penalty before the olympics...so we do agree sometimes when it comes to Koivu).

You and And-o on the other hand...I have to wonder what the anti-Koivu motive is all about because there does not seem to be a balanced approach to the criticism.

But it is in fact all in good fun if you are only influenced by the "hockey". Calling Koivu out for off games and bad penalties is alright. But constant denial of how good he is overall is confusing and in a pure "hockey" world...lacks credibility.

-- Edited by Muller93 at 18:38, 2006-03-02

AB Habman · Guru

Whatever!

My point is, no one will change their position so why keep cycling this?

Let's move on and evaluate him on his future games.

Muller93 · Guru

AB Habman wrote:

Whatever!
My point is, no one will change their position so why keep cycling this?

What?? Ab, you were the one upset that I did not respond to your post...hello...

In any case, whenever someone pulls out the "whatever" its a sure sign that they have lost the argument.

AB Habman · Guru

Muller93 wrote:

AB Habman wrote: Whatever! My point is, no one will change their position so why keep cycling this? What?? Ab, you were the one upset that I did not respond to your post...hello... In any case, whenever someone pulls out the "whatever" its a sure sign that they have lost the argument.

Whatever meant, don't drag me into your arquments with unfounded material about things I didn't say about 8 posts back! That's what I was eluding to in the first place.

Whatever also means, time to move on. The horse is dead!