Uh Oh..........

mperra (Admin) wrote:

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Theodore fails drug test.  press conference at 6pm. A banned stimulant.

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Nooooo!  Dammit Theo!  What is with you???  

There goes any chance of moving him...  

If this is true, any support I had for this guy is gone.  Like Tocchet, how can you be so stupid Theo?????

Apparently it was using a hair loss drug that he did not disclose.   Had he disclosed it, it would not have been a problem.   He's been taking it since the age of 21.   He's 29 now.

Lets just hope he isn't also found to be implicated in the Tocchet-gate scandal.

barry33 wrote:

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mperra (Admin) wrote: Apparently it was using a hair loss drug that he did not disclose.   Had he disclosed it, it would not have been a problem.   He's been taking it since the age of 21.   He's 29 now.

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propecia. was the masking drug

im sorry but what does ANY male in their 20's need a hair growth drug for?? To what i see is theo has had perfectly fine hair ...even in his PRE 21 years ( World juniors and such ) Im SERIOUSLY thinking this is some sorta of drug masking agent with the muscle growth steroid or something of that sorta. i however HOPE im wrong. This is the last thing we as a team needed and theo as a player needed. More distractions....right when our team was getting back on track. Huet is in tonight, so im guessing he will be finishing off the week now with all this attention around theo, i wouldnt want to put him in. This SERIOUSLY sucks!

From my perspective, Theo's hair was too good to be true. Kinda like fake breasts, the best hair has gotta be fake!

Johab wrote:

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im sorry but what does ANY male in their 20's need a hair growth drug for?? To what i see is theo has had perfectly fine hair ...even in his PRE 21 years ( World juniors and such ) Im SERIOUSLY thinking this is some sorta of drug masking agent with the muscle growth steroid or something of that sorta. i however HOPE im wrong. This is the last thing we as a team needed and theo as a player needed. More distractions....right when our team was getting back on track. Huet is in tonight, so im guessing he will be finishing off the week now with all this attention around theo, i wouldnt want to put him in. This SERIOUSLY sucks!

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If you have ever seen Theo in shorts and a tshirt as I have..you would know that he has never even sniffed a steroid in his life. The Dr Said that the only thing that this hair growth agent masks is a certain kind of steroid that is used by wrestlers and bodybuilders to build bulk. Theo weights 185 pounds soaking wet.

I found the inside info on this at www.hairclubforgoalies.com. Here it is...

Feb. 9, 2006 -- Jose Theodore, Vezina and Hart Trophy-winning goaltender for the Montreal Canadiens, has admitted that he has used a banned substance during the 2006 hockey season. The substance, Propecia, is known as a masking drug because it is something he applies to his mask before each game in order to reverse the negative effects that the helmet part has on his hairstyle. League officials say they are looking into the charges and will rule shortly on whether the netminder will be punished for the violation. Punishment could include a year's suspension, a buzzcut, or both.

Team officials declined comment, but one insider, known as Mperra The Empirical, confirmed that Jose had indeed been caught red-handed.

"Only his hairdresser knows for sure," Mperra said, "but at the moment it looks like Theo did it. The real question is whether or not the substance had any effect on his play. One thing's certain, though -- nobody's claiming that it gave him any kind of unfair advantage over other goalies. Not with his numbers this year..."

Theodore, 60, expressed surprise that he had tested positive for the substance.

"I haven't had a mask on for about a week and a half, so I don't know how they could have found any masking agents," the swarthy goaltender said. "I've only been wearing my baseball cap lately, and I never use the stuff with that."

If true, the charges come at a good time for the Habs. Backup goalie Cristobal Huet has been sparkling in net over his last several starts and feels that this latest scandal will only serve to solidify his chances of being the Habs No. 1 goalie through the rest of the season.

"My head of hair may not be as full as Theo's," Huet said after practice today, "but then again, my nets aren't as full of pucks as Theo's. So maybe there is some correlation."

Asked for comment, Canadiens coach and general manager Bob Gainey vehemently denied any knowledge or involvement.

"I did not at any time provide Jose with any Propecia," Gainey stated. "The stuff's expensive and I can never get enough of it myself. Why would I share mine with him when he's giving me so much trouble on the ice? I admit, he did ask me whether Propecia was better than Rogaine a few months ago and I gave him my honest opinion. But I am not a drug dealer. If Jose was on the stuff, it was without my knowledge. Heck, if I'd known he'd had it, I would've filched some out of his locker and saved a few loonies!"

To Canadiens fans, the revelation doesn't seem to come as a surprise.

"It figures," said AB Habman. "And I bet you anything that Saku Koivu put him up to it. Any good captain would make sure that his players aren't getting involved in this stuff, but not Koivu. It's all Koivu's fault! When is the team going to get rid of that little Finnish runt and get a real first-line center?"

Other fans felt that the news wasn't something that the team or league should make a big deal out of.

"I don't care if he uses Preparation H on those long, silky, beautiful locks of his," said HabGirl, a fan from British Columbia. "Jose is a dreamboat, and he can pull into my slip anytime."

It remains to be seen whether Jose will dress for tonight's game against Buffalo, but one can assume that if he does, his hair may not look as full and shiny as usual. Perhaps those fans who were wearing bags on their heads earier in the season, when Jose's play had them running for the exits after period two, will lend one to him for the night.

 Desi, I'm trying to laugh but this is a very sad situation for the Habs as a whole!

 The sadest part is, he witnesses Saks fight for his life against cancer! Shouldn't that be a wake up call to stay away from that crap!

 Of course I'm assuming he was masking something!

AB Habman wrote:

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 I gather if he has been taken this since he was 21 that it was used to mask a steroid during that time! That's a long time to be on a steroid!  This is a further kick in the pants to Gainey who was already feeling the heat for the signing and his poor play! Gainey now has no choice but to move him! He stuck by him through his family troubles but this goes beyond that! You can bet that the paying faithfulls will be all over Gainey to move him! Remember what Gainey said " Our fans are our shareholders " Let's see how true this is!  Now the only problem is Gainey will have to eat some of his contract to move him as Theo has zero trading value!  Let's all get ready to hear Theo's justication in tonights press conference! It's going to sound like this....."actually I've used it for a long time due to the stress of playing in such a high calibre league, I have been losing my hair. My doctor suggested it then and it has helped"  Also note that Theo was told back in Sept. ( I think they said) that he tested positive for this and continued to use it! Why???? would he continue especially with the Olympics around the corner? He has to be masking something that he hoped would help him out of his poor play!

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Seriously man... I try and be  indifferent to your posts but its almost impossible. You truly believe that Jose is taking growth inhibitors and as a result think that Gainey "has no choice" but to trade him. Have you ever looked at him? This is a real question... have you ever looked at Jose Theodore? Do me a favour and tell me who of these two guys is on steroids:

Here is a hint... ITS NOT JOSE!!!!

Thanks again though for towing the party line by finding yet another bad reason to trade a player.

mdmrules wrote:
Have you ever looked at him? This is a real question... have you ever looked at Jose Theodore?

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I HAVE!  LOTS!  PICK ME!!!

Seriously, now that more details are coming out, I find his and the team doctor's comments plausible.  I believe him.  Not because of my feelings on/for him, but because of what you and Barry are alluding to - LOOK at him.  I don't believe he's ever even been in a room with 'roids that are designed to add bulk. 

I think an arbitrator is gonna toss this one out.  And Theo?  Even if your hair completely falls out you'd still be a cutie.

Now, put it behind you like you've put so much behind you in the past, get back between the pipes and start smokin' the other teams again.  I'm not alone when I say - you CAN do it.

Oh, Theo, and call me. 

 

Dont get be wrong, im not at all saying theo IS guilty, im just saying the fact that he is using a drug to help hair growth at his age doesnt make sense. I did however just hear there is a story about it and that there may actually be a reason theo IS taking the drug that IS related to a hair growth problem. What i do like hearing is the fact that the drug is in NO WAY a performance enhancing drug, its only reason for being banned is it hides OTHER drugs by diluting the urine and the type of drug is hides is one that boosts muscle growth ( As you can see theo barely has ANY and looks nothing close to a wrestler or boxer. I REALLY hope theo is clean in this case! We ALL know the montreal media is going to eat this up...so theo REALLY needs to be innocent for this NOT to bother him because thats all you need to know to get through it! If hes lying, yhe will be worried of the truth getting out and then more problems. I REALLY hope the habs and theo can get by all this mess

plouf wrote:

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In the press conference before the game on CJAD someone said that the only steroid masked by this drug is Nandrolene. Nandrolene is used by a lot of different types of athletes, often as a way of healing quickly from physical strain and stress. There are a bunch of soccer players in Europe who have been tested positive for this drug in the last few years (including big names like Edgar Davids, who got suspended). It's not strictly a bulker-upper, in other words. I hope this is not the reason... On the other hand, Theo's been using this drug openly, by prescription, so there's a good case on his side.

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In fact theteam Physician admits to refilling his presecription that he gets form a DERMATOLOGIST and has been taking for 7 years..really does not sound much like black market stuff do me..sorry but I am on Theo's side on this one. If he is guilty..so is the team Dr. Of stupidity.