Does Carboneau have what it takes?

Rene21 · Newbie

Does Carboneau have what it takes?

barry33 · Guru

Rene21 wrote:

Sure Guy was a great player but does he have what it takes to coach. If he did Gaines would have let him take over the show right away. One has to wonder.

I would have preferred a guy with more head coaching experience..ok...some head coaching experience. The debate goes on as to whether a player who had success in the NHL but no coaching experience (ie AHL or major junior) is as qualified as a coach who did not play as much but has more formal coaching training. As a coach, and a former player, I guess I can speak from both sides. I know that I would not be half the coach I am now without formal training.

Desi · Senior Member

My take on this is that the team has a head coach now -- Gainey -- and it will have the same head coach next year -- Gainey. BG knows that with a friend and rookie coach behind the bench what he says will go. If BG was handcuffing CJ this year, imagine what kind of leeway Carbs will have. He may have to ask permission to fill the water bottles.

I like Gainey's demeanor, and what he did in Dallas was impressive. But I have yet to see a great trade orchestrated by him -- or even a good one. And so far, the Canadiens team he's coached since taking over this year has been anything but consistent.

The jury's still out on Gainey, but I'm willing to be a little patient. If the team makes the playoffs and plays with some intensity in the first round -- against what would undoubtedly be one of the top teams in the conference -- that will show me that he's on the right track at least.

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barry33 · Guru

Desi wrote:

My take on this is that the team has a head coach now -- Gainey -- and it will have the same head coach next year -- Gainey. BG knows that with a friend and rookie coach behind the bench what he says will go. If BG was handcuffing CJ this year, imagine what kind of leeway Carbs will have. He may have to ask permission to fill the water bottles. I like Gainey's demeanor, and what he did in Dallas was impressive. But I have yet to see a great trade orchestrated by him -- or even a good one. And so far, the Canadiens team he's coached since taking over this year has been anything but consistent. The jury's still out on Gainey, but I'm willing to be a little patient. If the team makes the playoffs and plays with some intensity in the first round -- against what would undoubtedly be one of the top teams in the conference -- that will show me that he's on the right track at least. Les Canadiens sont la

I think he has already shown how he will look after Carbo..giving him a year to get the team on track...but if Gainey feels he can work with carbo better then that is half the battle. The GM and coach need to be on the same page.

Desi · Senior Member

You're right B-33. Nothing worse than having a GM and coach that are looking in opposite directions. Let's just hope that the one BG's trying to take the team in is the right one. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, simply because I spent so many years cheering for the guy and admiring his play.

Congrats, by the way on post No. 1200! May it bring joy and prosperity to you and all Habs fans -- starting tonight!

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davidb · Guru

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NEWFIEHABSFAN · Senior Member

I think carboneau will do fine as a head coach, but not this year. gainey is doing the right thing by going behind the bench for the rest of this season! You want to groom carb, get him used the pressure, like on the job training.I think next year carboneau will be the head coach and gainey up stairs.

rwp2le · Guru

Barry: I am curious on your take of this, will Carbo be the coach next year, or just Gaineys puppet? I am guessing he will be a good boy and do what he is told. I think Eddy O taught all coaches a lesson on what happens when you don't listen to your boss, and in his case Captian as well.