Anyone else notice Theo's face on the bench

Cleghorn · Veteran Member

Anyone else notice Theo's face on the bench

davidb · Guru

Ill get him some ZZZZZ , move him up to Churchill to watch the Polar Bear jails.

Gravelbourger · Member

He went to practice drunk a few weeks back and went on the ice with his skate guards on and he fell on his first step on the ice. He looks to be a little hungover again today. Has anyone heard if he is a drunk or has a drug problem?? The reason I ask is because he is not only playing bad ......he playing awful. In addition, it has been all year. In speculation, perhaps the year off gave him time to find bad things to do with his huge contract.

This is serious. Our fourth line has been our best two games in a row. Our defense is soft beyond description in front of our net. Komisarek is playing in the wrong league....he belongs in the East Coast League. Sreit should have never played an NHL game.....he is playing 20 minutes a game and shouldn't be in the league. Koivu continues to float and provide no visible leadership. Zednik and Riberio need to traded.....why, because they don't do enough to be on the first two lines and they are our so-called skilled players. This team is in complete disarray. Start with finding the cancer and cutting it free.......the cancer starts with Theo.

-- Edited by Gravelbourger at 20:50, 2006-01-23

Nil d · Guru

Gravelbourger wrote:

He went to practice drunk a few weeks back and went on the ice with his skate guards on and he fell on his first step on the ice. He looks to be a little hungover again today. Has anyone heard if he is a drunk or has a drug problem?? The reason I ask is because he is not only playing bad ......he playing awful. In addition, it has been all year. In speculation, perhaps the year off gave him time to find bad things to do with his huge contract. This is serious.

Gravel, where are you hearing these things? Are reports of a drinking problem reliable? Your sources, please!?

Habhead · Veteran Member

It's obvious to me BG is playing Theo hoping to God he turns it around enough so some team will take a chance on him to get his ass out of Mtl.

The problem is, Theo doesn't give a c**p . . . if the rumour's are true of possible drugs/heavy drinking then sit Theo on the bench for the rest of the season, a little humiliation might go a long way to getting some kind of performance out of him for a trade to happen.

I agree the cancer starts with Theo, get rid of the bum.

AB Habman · Guru

I think this board has even given Theo nine lives over this season! We finger point at our defense etc! Sure they're not great but do they have to block every single shot? It's not easy being a defensemen in this new NHL! They touch a forward and their penalized!

Theo also has to stop finger pointing and looking for excuses! He needs to merely do his job! Let Gainey try to fix the mess he started!

Gravelbourger · Member

Oh, my source, is just a little bit reliable.......it comes from one of the players on the team. I have more insight than I have even hinted at regarding the team......but tonight, anyone who was watching can see that our D is weak but the major weakness is in net and has been ALL year. Isn't it ironic that Theo's best friend was -3 and in the penalty box box for 2 of the Canes goals.....but no need to mention any names ....right Ribz!!!

PS...don't bother asking me which player because I'm not going to reveal that but take my word that the source is a player presently on the team.

PSS. ... another piece of info from my source......best guy in the room.....Rivet / worst guy in the room........Koivu guess who the captain is???

It's pathetic the effort our marquee players are giving...especially on the road..we've lost 16 of 17 road games.....that's unacceptable in any frickin' sport. I'd be embarrassed to be Koivu, Kovalev, Zednik, Bonk, Bulis, Riberio and sitting in the room after a game like that knowing that I didn't have a shot on goal or a scoring chance or a damm point. Nuff is enough....shake the this chemistry right up and let's start with obtaining more North American's with a little more pride and heart and let's dump these before mentioned Euro's to someone else to try to figure out!!!!!!!!

TheoDoor · Member

Hey Gravel,

Your source has been revealed: BARRY33 !!!???

AB Habman · Guru

Gravelbourger wrote:

Oh, my source, is just a little bit reliable.......it comes from one of the players on the team. I have more insight than I have even hinted at regarding the team......but tonight, anyone who was watching can see that our D is weak but the major weakness is in net and has been ALL year. Isn't it ironic that Theo's best friend was -3 and in the penalty box box for 2 of the Canes goals.....but no need to mention any names ....right Ribz!!! PS...don't bother asking me which player because I'm not going to reveal that but take my word that the source is a player presently on the team. PSS. ... another piece of info from my source......best guy in the room.....Rivet / worst guy in the room........Koivu guess who the captain is??? It's pathetic the effort our marquee players are giving...especially on the road..we've lost 16 of 17 road games.....that's unacceptable in any frickin' sport. I'd be embarrassed to be Koivu, Kovalev, Zednik, Bonk, Bulis, Riberio and sitting in the room after a game like that knowing that I didn't have a shot on goal or a scoring chance or a damm point. Nuff is enough....shake the this chemistry right up and let's start with obtaining more North American's with a little more pride and heart and let's dump these before mentioned Euro's to someone else to try to figure out!!!!!!!!

I have to say I have stated that Rivet has surprised me this season and is leading by example!

Did you see that scrap?

Pablo Honey · Veteran Member

If it is true that Theo is having drug related problems, I feel sorry for him. He is a human being and anyone with alcohol/drug problems is in a tough and dark place. If this is true, I hope he gets things back in order.

AB Habman · Guru

Pablo Honey wrote:

If it is true that Theo is having drug related problems, I feel sorry for him. He is a human being and anyone with alcohol/drug problems is in a tough and dark place. If this is true, I hope he gets things back in order.

I do agree but in saying that the NHL is a hockey business and not a rehab center! If he chooses to BLOW his money then he should do it else where! Not only is this costing Gainey 5 mil per season but huge losses in playoff revenue!

The only drugs he should be doing is Steroids! Berard is looking to sell his stash!

Habtastic · Guru

If Theo has a substance abuse problem, why has Gainey not put him in the NHL program? Doesn't make sense. And please, stop using the word 'Cancer' to describe a problem. You might also want to stop insulting all the Euro's on this board. There are more Euro's with heart, than not.

Habtastic

Nil d · Guru

Gravelbourger wrote:

Oh, my source, is just a little bit reliable.......it comes from one of the players on the team. I have more insight than I have even hinted at regarding the team......

You're a darkhorse, aren't you?! Tell us more!

Nil d · Guru

Habtastic wrote:

If Theo has a substance abuse problem, why has Gainey not put him in the NHL program? Doesn't make sense. And please, stop using the word 'Cancer' to describe a problem. You might also want to stop insulting all the Euro's on this board. There are more Euro's with heart, than not. Habtastic

Thanks for speaking up, Habtastic. We all need to be more tolerant.

Saku11 · Senior Member

i think this is going a little too far.... with these accusations a such. When accusing someone you must produce a source of evidence , physical or literally, without evidence, it is just you trying to start something or attempting to make us believe you have a reliable source, in which you dont --->Gravelbourger<-----

barry33 · Guru

Saku11 wrote:

i think this is going a little too far.... with these accusations a such. When accusing someone you must produce a source of evidence , physical or literally, without evidence, it is just you trying to start something or attempting to make us believe you have a reliable source, in which you dont --->Gravelbourger<-----

I am just curious why Koivu fans have such a hard time believing that he could do any wrong? He is human and I am sure he has his issues like anyone else. All we see is what he does on the ice (which, for the most part, is give a 100% effort every night). That does not mean the guy is not capable of being a poop disturber?

Habtastic · Guru

I have always been a Saku supporter, but it looks like it may be time for him to go. Six coaches, same captain, many of the same problems remain, but now more intensified. There are a few vets that I would definitely keep (Bulis, Rivet, Kovalev, Ryder, Huet, Bouillon, Dandenault, Komisarek, Begin) and all the rookies have impressed me. I would consider trading Perezhogin only because we are a little cramped in our top 6 and I think Kostitsyn will be a bit better. I think we have some really good core and some excellent youth, but it is the remaining cast which is bringing us down and maybe the Captain, as well. Time for a change, even if it means missing the playoffs.

Habtastic

Gravelbourger · Member

Saku11 wrote:

i think this is going a little too far.... with these accusations a such. When accusing someone you must produce a source of evidence , physical or literally, without evidence, it is just you trying to start something or attempting to make us believe you have a reliable source, in which you dont --->Gravelbourger<-----

If you don't believe the skate guard story then don't . It's FACT according to what my buddy(the player) said. Perhaps someone else on here with an inside source can back this(ie.Barry33) and then Saku11... you'll eat your words. In addition, the clique rumour on this board is not rumour, it's fact. There are the following cliques : francophones(Theo, Ribs, Bouillion, Dagenais, Begin, Dandenault, etc.), Euros(Kovy is pretty to himself, Zed, Bulis, Bonk, Sunstrom, etc.) and then the remaining players(Souray is Hollywood, Ryder, Higgins, Komi, Murray, Rivet, etc...). This is the furthest from a team and a major problem on this team is simply language. My suggestion is more Canadians/Americans who can actually commicate with each other and perhaps want to put their body on the line for their buddy. There are only pockets of buddies on this team and that NEVER works!!!!!!!

Muller93 · Guru

Gravelbourger wrote:

Saku11 wrote: i think this is going a little too far.... with these accusations a such. When accusing someone you must produce a source of evidence , physical or literally, without evidence, it is just you trying to start something or attempting to make us believe you have a reliable source, in which you dont --->Gravelbourger<----- If you don't believe the skate guard story then don't . It's FACT according to what my buddy(the player) said. Perhaps someone else on here with an inside source can back this(ie.Barry33) and then Saku11... you'll eat your words. In addition, the clique rumour on this board is not rumour, it's fact. There are the following cliques : francophones(Theo, Ribs, Bouillion, Dagenais, Begin, Dandenault, etc.), Euros(Kovy is pretty to himself, Zed, Bulis, Bonk, Sunstrom, etc.) and then the remaining players(Souray is Hollywood, Ryder, Higgins, Komi, Murray, Rivet, etc...). This is the furthest from a team and a major problem on this team is simply language. My suggestion is more Canadians/Americans who can actually commicate with each other and perhaps want to put their body on the line for their buddy. There are only pockets of buddies on this team and that NEVER works!!!!!!!

FINALLY, someone who can put two and two together!!!! Language....Such a petty thing, but in Montreal it is intensified. how could this be a problem when you have every other team in the NHL with a mixture of languages and they seem to do fine???

Can you spell entitlement Theo, Ribiero, Begin, Dags etc???

Wake up And-o and AB. I have NEVER once said Koivu is the best player in the game, but I can gaurantee you that you are pickin on the wrong specimen. You always seem content to drag Koivu's name through the dirt but NEVER mention WHY the dressing room problem started in the first place.

SOOOO I have a question for And-o, AB and in a smaller way Barry33. The origin of the dressing room problem? Ribero fighting with the Captain without proper action taken to remedy that behavior? Hmmmmmmm?... NO way should a sophomore fringe player like Ribero get away with that IMO. It would never happen on any other team. Even if Ribiero was right. Second question...why was he not dealt with properly???

Would I trade Koivu? Absolutely if the price was right. He has been the captain now for a long time and it may be a time for a change. But that room will continue to be full of garbage no matter who wears the "c" as long as a player can get away with challanging the captain, it's just stupid. Plus+++++ Koivu would not get as much as he is worth in a trade at the moment, so I fail to see the benefit of trading him