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Aleax Kovalev is having knee surgery in Pittsburgh tomorrow as reported on the fan 590. No word yet on how long he will b eout. Wow. This is a HUGE blow!!

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What a costly injury!


Good thing we have put some points in the bank early on, 'cause it's gunna get tougher to get points now with Kovy gone for probably months.


Theo's going to have to really step up from here on out, but I'd really want to see danis start against Toronto, at least for the next two Mtl/Tor matchups to see how he handles the pressure.  Theo is what 4-11 against the Buds?  Not good at all, hopefully Julien is aware of that stat and does something about it.



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So who takes the 1st line spot and how does that ripple down accross the rest of the lines?  Are we going to have to make a call up?  We seem short.  I don't really know who plays what wing, but I'd like to see Ryder promoted because he's playing great.  Imagine him with a decent centre and solid winger?  We've got arguably 3-4 should-wins before Toronto and Ottawa.  How often do we sub for Theo?  We play 9 games then have 6 days off. 


Ok, so who wants to make the new line?  I need a bench coach here!!



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look for Perez to move up there and maybe play his off wing. Unfortunately Dagenais will take Perez place and they will probably call Ivanis up.

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Any word on how long he'll be out and what kind of surgery it is?


Damn I wish Latendresse was up with the club. We could use him right now


 


 



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Any word on how long he'll be out and what kind of surgery it is? Damn I wish Latendresse was up with the club. We could use him right now    


Best case scenario has him out a month. Apparently he has been playing hurt since training camp and this has stopped him from making the range of motions he would like to. It is a recurrence of a porblem he had in Pittsburgh and he has fluid on the knee. So he is having it scoped then needs 2 weeks of complete rest then he can work his way back into shap and onto the ice. Keep in mind this is the BEST case scenario if all goes well. If not it could be alot longer.


The good news is that the guy has playe dpretty damn good on one leg. I can't wait to see him come back rested and in shape. Time for Perez and Higgins to step it up.



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Ouch!!!! I've had this feeling for a while now that things were going along too nicely. Let's hope it's nothing too serious and that he'll be back soon. Hopefully Perez can show us if he's the real deal with more ice time and playing regularly

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What a topic for my 100th post.

First off, it's apparently maintainance surgery to prevent problems down the line, so even though the car might be in the shop for a while, we'll still be able to drive it to the prom in April.

Having said that, if the habs can't get along, and win games without him, then I'm afraid what we've been seeing is a team that has done well against a league that was in an adjustment period. It seems the more everyone is getting used to defending against unobstructed speed, the more challenging it has been to put together a solid win (or OTL for that matter).

But this could be a bonus in disguise, a chance to have some preventative maintainance that the team badly needs. If CJ uses this opportunity to instill a sense of discipline and nerve in the team, rather than letting them collapse, then we'll have a nice fat cake for the icing to sit on when it comes back.

As much as I don't think he belongs in a Habs jersey (a perfect Ranger maybe?) Ribiero has flashes of real talent, and if he could get some major mental adjustment, could partially fill in the points gap Kovy is going to leave, but he has to stop behaving like he's twelve with all the parents huddling around him saying "oooh, what a little star he's going to be". Wake up Mike, you're actually playing in the NHL, and your teenage fantasy of raising a cup isn't going to come true swanning around the ice, trying to make a SportsCenter moment.

But I think it's Ryder's time to shine, and putting Perez up there would be a mistake. Ryder has the attitude and the love of the game to be a real leader on this team for years to come, and what better way to show it than taking up the place of a fallen teammate. Look for him not just to score points, but to inspire the rest to do the same. Fun is infectious and effective.

We'll just have to see. But don't lose faith, this is not one of those habs teams that is made up of one decent line and a lot of footnotes in hockey history.

They'll be just fine


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If...IF...the Habs battle through this stretch and thrive, this could be a blessing in disguise!


THINK OF THE CAP MONEY SAVED!


(...this makes the OT loss to Toronto even worse though!)



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If...IF...the Habs battle through this stretch and thrive, this could be a blessing in disguise! THINK OF THE CAP MONEY SAVED! (...this makes the OT loss to Toronto even worse though!)


I think they have to be gone for a certain number of games, like 10 or more before the cap $ gets saved.


On a side note, this could be the end of a good thing in MTL. I expect some big losses coming up. Our PP has sucked with him, how is it gonna be without him???



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This is unbelievable. What a bad time for this to happen. 

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I think we should keep all of this in perspective.  First, the recent rash of injuries is a helluva lot easier to deal with now (ie - beginning of the season) than in the playoffs.  Imagine Kovalev going down in the first round of the playoffs.  Secondly, take a look at the points that the entire roster has.  Yes, Kovalev is a huge part of the team, however, nearly everyone is contributing.  Look ahead to the schedule.  Ottawa once, Buffalo twice and the Leafs once in the next 10 games (5 weeks worth) which includes six days off in the second week of December.  That is 7 to 9 very winnable games (Ottawa is scary good and who can predict a game with the Leafs).  I'm not ready to write them off.

-- Edited by heet_150 at 14:36, 2005-11-14

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Objectively... he's been playing hurt (awesome though he's been), so his linemates were obviously pitching in a lot. And the rest of the team has been carrying much of the load so I can't see this hurting us all that much. Perezhogin will be brought up to the 1st line, Dags will be play in the caboose with Ivanans. And when Kovy comes back... LOOKOUT!

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Scope. What that means is they have no idea what is causing the knee pain. "fluid on the knee" is really a term for swelling that is contained within the joint capsule. Usually from internal(meniscal) irritation.


It is likely that they find nothing surgical which is actually bad news because that just means he plays the rest of his career with knee pain. The good news is, expect him back in 2-4 weeks if all it is is a scope. Obviously he is still a force despite the knee pain. My worry would be not for this year but rather that 4 year contract!!



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Want to know what impresses me? No one on the team knew he had a bad knee. H eknew on Saturday that he would be having this work done on Tuesday yet insisted playing in pain. And until he did not show up at practice today not a soul on the team knew he was playinghurt all season. Sure throws that theory that the guy has no heart into question don't it?

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If...IF...the Habs battle through this stretch and thrive, this could be a blessing in disguise! THINK OF THE CAP MONEY SAVED! (...this makes the OT loss to Toronto even worse though!)


this means we play the leafs in two weeks without, Kovalev, things keep bouncing for the leafs.  They may make the playoffs from the points they get from us, if we don't start beating them when we should.  Man i hate the leafs.

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Want to know what impresses me? No one on the team knew he had a bad knee. H eknew on Saturday that he would be having this work done on Tuesday yet insisted playing in pain. And until he did not show up at practice today not a soul on the team knew he was playinghurt all season. Sure throws that theory that the guy has no heart into question don't it?

Great point.  Put that in the same contaxt as his choice to sign with the Habs in the first place and we have a real heart&soul player.  Just wait 'til he gets back and hits his stride.

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This is a major blow to our team. But that's ok, we got along last season without Kovalev, and now other guys are going to have to step it up. It's no easy task filling his skates, but I have confidence in our team. I think Ryder or Perezhogin will do well on that line until Kovy gets back.

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